[Enladalusange]

Well

1:to be samurai u have to be 100% Japanes
2:Born in a Samurai Family
3:Born befor 1900 because the samurai class was disbanned in the 18somthing

So even though by some miracle were born in Japan , in a family that has samurai roots , and you follow the bushido and practise Kenjutso kyudo , iaido and kendo , its 10000000000 % imposible to become a samurai.

ppl need to stop trying to become somthing that has no place in todays society and start living a normal life.

Khabbi

NoNoNoNoNONONONONONONONOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Tell Me It AINT SO!!!!!!!

I know fer certain it aint so! I got da sword, da clothes and I finally can put the coulotts on right, so I must be a samurai! After all da money I paid, I better be one! Well, back to wax on wax off practice!

[dogdesign]

I love it when some nut claims he's a samurai

They always overlook some important things about samurai, though:
- Samurai never called themselves samurai. I think they called themselves bushi.
- They always consider samurai as something as something supernatural. I can't really describe it, but it's almost like superheroes. The samurai class was "just" the warrior class of Japan (I put just between quotes because I consider they had exceptional skills, but nothing like superheroes off course ).
- They almost always refer to the code of the samurai. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think there was a written, uniform samurai code. I think it was rather an unwritten set of moral values that could vary upon the fief the samurai was attached to.
- There are no samurais anymore since 1867 and the Meiji Restoration. The samurai class was set aside for good then.
- You didn't "become" a samurai, you were born into a samurai family and raised as one.
- Hagakure isn't the samurai code! It's just the reflections of one single person about what being a retainer/samurai was. The book is still very intresting and provides a good view of how life was back then.

Besides, I actually know someone who descends from a samurai family and she said that fact doesn't matter a lot to most japanese nowadays.

Okay, now who gave me a bad reputation point for this post saying "hey , dude, im new, but still, you dont have to be 100% jap to become a samurai , the ture meaining is guard"?

It might sound a little whiny, but I don't want to get blames for nothing .
I am only expressing my views, not forcing you to believe them...

And can someone tell me what "the ture meaining is guard" means?

[netamargr]

I know it was just a joke , but still i feel a need to pick apart the joke and analyze it

The "ninja " were actualy Samurai , Another myth shatterd to pieces

The last real ninja was prob James Bond in "You only Live twice" .




Khabbi

[Stacypettlerr]

karl beattie is the current World Traditional Full Contact Martial Arts Champion. He won the title in 1994 and holds it to this day after knocking out the then undefeated champion Tiju Fukura. Karl has never been beaten and holds an impressive record of 85 official fights, 85 wins and 75 KO's. He is the only person to take the title out of Japan and for his efforts has been awarded a Samuraiship, one of only eight honoured outside of Japan.

This is a joke right?

"Tiju" is not a Japanese name (it's unpronouceable in Japanese).

There is no such thing as a Traditional Full Contact Martial Arts Champion. (plus it reeks of typical fraudulant budo claims).

"Samurai" is a social class. An abolished one. If Japan starts turning out samurai it's because they've turned back the clock over 100 years and have decided that the Meiji revolution was just a big misunderstanding. There is no such thing as samuraiships. It's like being named King of France: The title does not exist, so one cannot be named to such a post.

Don't knock the BBC News! I love BBC News. The accents, the reporting, the fact that they give the weather in New Dehli like it's a normal thing. I heard an interview of Lord Roberston (Head of Nato) and wow! The reporter was unafraid to say things that you never hear in North America: "But, Lord Roberston, isn't that hard to believe given the past interventions?" (i.e. Don't you think you're full of it?).

[MicoSiru]

To be a true samurai, you need one of these:
http://www.thewebcollection.com/samurai_3000.html

"The Samurai of the year 3000 AD. is a master of high technology fighting and weaponry and the primary arm is the plasmium sword, a device constructed by highly disciplined weapon masters using an extremely secretive form of physics."

"The UC1258 and UC1260 feature the Samurai code of justice, service, and honor on the hand guard, engraved in their secret language."


Holy cow! If I knew about this sooner, I would never have joined kendo! These things are only a fraction of the cost of our equipment! I can't wait until 3000 AD -- where do I sign up!?

[koebforfrn]

close but no cigar =) , thanx shiro , its nice to know some ppl read books and search the internet to get facts . seems alot of ppl get their knowledge nowadays from hollywood movies .

As for ppl wanting to become samurai , im not sure whats wrong with their coconut.

Khabbi

I just love history
And people who think they are samurai should take a look at it.

Here's a good site about it: http://www.samurai-archives.com/
For those who are not familiar with japanese history, look things up about Takeda Shingen, Oda Nobunaga and Tokugawa Ieyasu. It's really, really intresting .

[Oxzzlvpg]

Ah he was called Karl Beattie! I forgot and tried to search but there was nothing about it at all. Maybe the TV show was to embarrassed to put any thing on the web about that episode .
What I was actually thinking was when his sensei died he told him to carry on the club. But the guy runs a ghost hunting club!.

One more thing, I have been trying to work out for a wile what Katare actually is. Try doing Karate in Hakama and see how easy it is .

A Japanese man once went to China in history and trained with a Chinese man doing Chinese martial arts. The Japanese man then went back to Japan and tried to teach people what he had learned, but he knew so little that no one wanted to learn. After that most people just learned forms of Judo that was much more useful than kung-fu types of martial arts.

The only place karate really took off was Okinawa much closer to Taiwan than Japan. I think the only Japanese martial arts need DOU or RYUU at the end. Karate is nothing to do with Samurai or Japan at all.

[Muesrasrs]

I was actualy gonna recommend The Samurai-Archives and The Samurai History Forum to you ( Shiro ), but no need if you already know about them hehe

As for Famous Samurai I kinda like SAITO Denkibo , theres a short story about him here on K-W . somthing charismatic about him hehe .

As for the Samurai forum , its a real good one , just dont pay any attention to the " i wanna be a samurai / Ninja " and "who would win in a fight betwen samurai and a ninja " posts .

Khabbi

[Zfdeisde]

I love it when some nut claims he's a samurai

They always overlook some important things about samurai, though:
- Samurai never called themselves samurai. I think they called themselves bushi.
- They always consider samurai as something as something supernatural. I can't really describe it, but it's almost like superheroes. The samurai class was "just" the warrior class of Japan (I put just between quotes because I consider they had exceptional skills, but nothing like superheroes off course ).
- They almost always refer to the code of the samurai. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think there was a written, uniform samurai code. I think it was rather an unwritten set of moral values that could vary upon the fief the samurai was attached to.
- There are no samurais anymore since 1867 and the Meiji Restoration. The samurai class was set aside for good then.
- You didn't "become" a samurai, you were born into a samurai family and raised as one.
- Hagakure isn't the samurai code! It's just the reflections of one single person about what being a retainer/samurai was. The book is still very intresting and provides a good view of how life was back then.

Besides, I actually know someone who descends from a samurai family and she said that fact doesn't matter a lot to most japanese nowadays.

[puzobok]

Must have got hit in the head that first time he climbed over the fence!

[SQiTmhuY]

close but no cigar =) , thanx shiro , its nice to know some ppl read books and search the internet to get facts . seems alot of ppl get their knowledge
nowadays from hollywood movies .

As for ppl wanting to become samurai , im not sure whats wrong with their coconut.




Khabbi

[Faumpiggueria]

We'll you might have to be 100% Japanese to be a samurai.

But you can be 0% and still become a ninja...I know, I saw it on T.V.

http://www.pazsaz.com/master.html

I never thought I'd see an eighties pop-martial arts television series alongside "Sister Sister" on th same network..

[Unrersvar]

You don't know much about the BBC, eh .


Jakob

Yeah, I thought being a crackpot was one of the prerequisites for working on the BBC? Heh, kidding.

[Wckcvhsg]

I looked up about Karl Beattie and samuraiship on google.... I found only 1 site, from a tv show...... doesn't sound really believable to me......

[andrekuper]

...And can someone tell me what "the ture meaining is guard" means?

It means nothing. Obviously written by some uneducated boob who still thinks there are samurai. 'additions' perhaps. Don't worry about reputation either, it also means nothing.