[Creva4k]

Ok, I am just wondering- is it possible to be very discplined in one thing and not another? Or does all discpline kind of go together, so that if a person develops more discpline (and less laziness) in Kendo, then it will shift to all aspects of his or her life?

[bMc8F9ZI]

I think that if you read some threads on this forum, you'll see that some people seem to have good kendo but not much discipline.

Perhaps a better question is whether it's possible to have the kind of discipline it takes to attain a high rank in kendo and yet still be undisciplined in life. This sort of goes hand in hand with the discussion in your personality thread about high-ranking sensei who seem to act like brats.

P.S.: Go work on your footwork.

[angeldimmon]

I think that if you read some threads on this forum, you'll see that some people seem to have good kendo but not much discipline.

P.S.: Go work on your footwork.

Gee, you sure know a lot for a guy who's only been doing kendo for a couple of months.

[Ygd2qr8k]

The Two influence each other. You may be more decated to kendo that other aspects of your live, and hence be more focused. Discipline is not something you can switch on and off as required.

Anyway at the moment Kendo is a nice shiny new toy. If you want to improve you discipline, it will hep as long as you enjoy doing kendo.

P.S.: Go work on your footwork.

[Super-Luser]

I think that if you read some threads on this forum, you'll see that some people seem to have good kendo but not much discipline.

Lawl, that probably best describes myself - except for the "good kendo" part :V. Though kendo is helping polish that discipline which is beginning to show up in other areas of my life.

It's also a question of motivation - ideally whatever you have to deal with you should be giving it all your effort and attention.

[fameintatenly]

Ok, I am just wondering- is it possible to be very discplined in one thing and not another? Or does all discpline kind of go together, so that if a person develops more discpline (and less laziness) in Kendo, then it will shift to all aspects of his or her life?

I have moderate discipline in kendo, and rubbish in everything else. I'll only ever wake up with less than 3 alarms for kendo, I spend money I don't have on kendo, and when it comes to work and / or labour of some sort if there is an excuse not to do it, it's my excuse.

P.S go foot on your workfoot.

[Bridgester]

I know this guy, that is very diciplined in some ways when it comes to kendo. He does everything the "right" way and is very traditional, etc. But when I go to his house, everything is such a mess!

If hes reading this, you know who you are! Lol.


P.S. Go work on your Tsuki nuki Gyaku doh.

[PickEmUp]

I'd agree with Martino in that, generally, you're either disciplined or you're not. I think 'discipline' almost implies making yourself do something you don't enjoy. For example, if I tell myself . . . I eat three meals a day no matter if there's rain, snow, sleet, or hail. Plus, sometimes, I go the extra mile and eat snacks too! And I've been practicing eating for almost 40 years now! Holy smokes, I really am a disciplined eater.

For most people, kendo isn't their job or part of their chores (mowing the lawn, etc.) so kendo really falls under the category of recreation. If you find that you're 'disciplined' in kendo and nothing else, my assumption would be, well, that you're pretty much undisciplined and just like doing kendo. Hey, we all struggle with it (sigh) . . .

[23InetrySypekek]

I think it comes down to we all have things in life we all need to work on. Kendo is a tool to help focus yourself to improve on those things. Is there discipline in kendo yes. Will discipline help other things? Yes. You get what you give

[pertikuss]

In Kendo I can work myself to the faint-state or till I'm on the verge of puking despite all pains and doubts. In real life I'm the kind of person that shoves everything non-livethreatening to the next day/week/month... Why should I do my chorse today if I can also do them tomorrow... or never...? ^__^;

The only housework you can always, for sure, see me do is repairing/cleaning my shinais, and the only time I'm doing laundry is when I hand wash my tenogui or hang/fold my hakama & gi

So when it comes to Kendo I'm top notch miss-super discipline. With everything else, you may call me Sloth.

[Chooriwrocafn]

Ok, I am just wondering- is it possible to be very discplined in one thing and not another?

Definitely.

Or does all discpline kind of go together, so that if a person develops more discpline (and less laziness) in Kendo, then it will shift to all aspects of his or her life? Strictly my opinion, but I don't see that the discipline we get in kendo is necessarily self-discipline, particularly in the beginning. A lot of it is having someone there to kick your butt when you aren't up to getting it in gear. I don't think that translates directly to other aspects of life, though there are things about kendo that do (translate more directly to other aspects of life).

But I think it depends on there person. I think at some point, for a lot of people, self-discipline starts kicking in at some point. "Anality" starts increasing, next thing you know you're stepping up to be citizen of the month.

Or I could be wrong.

-Charles

[addisonnicogel]

Gee, you sure know a lot for a guy who's only been doing kendo for a couple of months.

Not even a couple of months, but it doesn't take much kendo experience to read forums and see that some people don't seem to have much discipline when it comes to some things.

[hopertveyk]

You think you can accurately judge the level of discipline of a person you've never met by some silly banter on an online forum? You're quick to pass judgment on all the people in the short amount of time you've been here. You're also quick to advise, and correct others even though you only have "not even a couple of months" of experience. Lack of discipline indeed.

[Sheelldaw]

I'm with Gibbo. I'm not even disciplined enough to bother writing some supporting evidence for why I'm so undisciplined.

[maxfreemann]

You think you can accurately judge the level of discipline of a person you've never met by some silly banter on an online forum? You're quick to pass judgment on all the people in the short amount of time you've been here. You're also quick to advise, and correct others even though you only have "not even a couple of months" of experience. Lack of discipline indeed.

There is more than a little truth to those words...

-Charles

[errolurberozy]

Ok, I am just wondering- is it possible to be very discplined in one thing and not another? Or does all discpline kind of go together, so that if a person develops more discpline (and less laziness) in Kendo, then it will shift to all aspects of his or her life?

It's not a question of discipline, but one of perception and priorities.

If you don't percieve some things as very important, you're not going to devote a lot of energy accomplishing them.

Me? I couldn't care less if my appartment is filled with stinking socks - don't even see them, but I can sit down (in the same 'dirty' appartment) at 1am and write a 50 page presentation for the next day or drag myself to training after 10-12 hours of work despite having enough 'reasons' to stay home for 3 weeks worth of absence.

[fruttomma]

You're quick to pass judgment on all the people in the short amount of time you've been here.

"see that some people don't seem to have much discipline"

You're also quick to advise, and correct others even though you only have "not even a couple of months" of experience.

I write what I think based on my own mistakes as a beginner and what sensei has told me. If I notice something weird, or something that seems wrong, of course I'll point it out. If it turns out that I was the one that was wrong, then it's another thing for me to learn.

If the reason you're getting so riled up is my postscript, then please calm down. It was a joke. If it's something else, then I'm sorry.

[illignocearia]

I write what I think based on my own mistakes as a beginner and what sensei has told me. If I notice something weird, or something that seems wrong, of course I'll point it out. If it turns out that I was the one that was wrong, then it's another thing for me to learn.

There was a thread a while back about giving advice. Have a look at it and maybe you'll understand where XvikingX is coming from.

[Cajlwdvx]

Looking at my own life, I'm definitely more disciplined now than before I started practicing budo, but only in areas pertaining to it. For example; I never miss practise if I can help it; my diet has improved drastically; I drink less and I exercise more, but I'm still lazy as hell when it comes to my uni. studies/apartment cleaning/work. So yeah. Maybe not so much discipline as priorites and (lack of) motivation.

[Diandaplaipsy]

You think you can accurately judge the level of discipline of a person you've never met by some silly banter on an online forum? You're quick to pass judgment on all the people in the short amount of time you've been here. You're also quick to advise, and correct others even though you only have "not even a couple of months" of experience. Lack of discipline indeed.

Who are you talking about??
Should I even ask?