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Old 04-02-2012, 02:11 AM   #21
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Thanks for pointing that out. I wasn't following F1 at that time (due to biological reasons mostly), but I thought that Magny-cours was used in F1 before then.

Who knows - maybe in ten years someone as informed as me (or is it "I"?) will start complaining because Bernie wants to remove Sepang and that's an historical circuit as well!
When they built Magny Cours, they tried to incorporate corners from different circuits into the track but the result was quite boring, although to me the long right hand turn into the backstraight after the start/finish line was quite interesting and offered chances to overtake at the end of the straight.
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Old 04-02-2012, 04:02 AM   #22
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If the track is NOT Magny Cours, then it's fine by me
Always disliked Magny Bores.
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Old 04-02-2012, 10:50 AM   #23
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When they built Magny Cours, they tried to incorporate corners from different circuits into the track but the result was quite boring, although to me the long right hand turn into the backstraight after the start/finish line was quite interesting and offered chances to overtake at the end of the straight.
with all the land around that track, you would have thought that they would have modified and stretched the layout by now.
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Old 04-02-2012, 03:43 PM   #24
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Always disliked Magny Bores.
totally agree, its one of the most boring races everytime it was on
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Old 04-02-2012, 09:48 PM   #25
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Yeah, it is a tricky question. France is a traditional motor racing country, yet they don't have a truly great circuit. The tradition of French GP's comes from old road-based circuits, like Monthléry, Reims, Rouen, etc, which have all died out. While the tradition of, say, Silverstone, Monza or Monaco has carried on. Maybe they could race at Le Mans circuit. It has not been related to F1, but nonetheless it is a legendary circuit in motorsport in general and with its length would be quite unique for modern F1 calendar - an alternative challenge.

At Magny-Cours the most legendary place was the hairpin, which has produced several memorable moments. And in general the stunning wet weather race in 1999. Other than that, not much to remember.
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Old 04-02-2012, 09:56 PM   #26
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Have you seen the modern Paul Ricard? It makes Magny Cours look like Spa by comparison.
Circuit Paul Ricard - Les pistes

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Old 04-02-2012, 10:08 PM   #27
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This is how it looked from the cockpit in 1983:
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Old 04-02-2012, 11:37 PM   #28
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At Magny-Cours the most legendary place was the hairpin, which has produced several memorable moments. And in general the stunning wet weather race in 1999. Other than that, not much to remember.
I always wondered why nobody else thinks the 2004 GP was not a memorable race, until I watched a UK (I don't know which broadcasting co, was doing F1 at the time) replay of the race. It mentioned almost nothing of this brilliant strategy that Brawn, who MS gave credit to, pulled off. I watched it on Speed TV. This is the race that MS did an improvised 4 stopper to do a pit stop pass on Alonso. Pit stop three was a very short fill. MS had something like 15 laps to gain 17 seconds on Alonso. On the original U.S. broadcast the announcers were counting the time gained each lap until he reached the delta to make the pass. It was really edge of your seat kind of stuff. It is also the race that Rubens passed JT on the final corner of the last lap to take a podium, and the topper was the dumbfounded look on Alonso's face in the post race interview.
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Old 04-03-2012, 12:54 AM   #29
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Yeah, it is a tricky question. France is a traditional motor racing country, yet they don't have a truly great circuit. The tradition of French GP's comes from old road-based circuits, like Monthléry, Reims, Rouen, etc, which have all died out. While the tradition of, say, Silverstone, Monza or Monaco has carried on. Maybe they could race at Le Mans circuit. It has not been related to F1, but nonetheless it is a legendary circuit in motorsport in general and with its length would be quite unique for modern F1 calendar - an alternative challenge.

At Magny-Cours the most legendary place was the hairpin, which has produced several memorable moments. And in general the stunning wet weather race in 1999. Other than that, not much to remember.
I agree completely. My point was like your first one a tradition of the French GP is a long one, but they do need a better track.
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Old 04-05-2012, 11:40 AM   #30
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Istanbul should always be on the schedule, not because it deserves it, but because it is a magnificent track.
+1. Soon we are all going to forget Istanbul, but it truly was a great track.

How ironic that the one Tilke track that was good has been axed.

As far as France goes, I think they already have a race, it's called the Monaco Grand Prix. Does anyone really buy that Monaco is a different country? Most US states have more autonomy from their federal government than Monaco has from Paris.

I also agree that Monza, Monaco, and Spa are the 3 tracks that are indispensable to F1. Interlagos, Suzuka and Silverstone are also very important. Everything else can come and go but these are the heart of F1 and should be featured every year.
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Old 04-05-2012, 05:24 PM   #31
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If the track is NOT Magny Cours, then it's fine by me
Careful what you wish for, could end up with another Valencia-quality street circuit.
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Old 04-05-2012, 05:30 PM   #32
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Having the cars take Signes Corner after spending the whole of Mistral Straight on the throttle would be a different sight. Too bad if grandstands were put there and a race was held, it wouldn't happen.
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