I think he did very well compared to Grosjean and Jaime who also have limited experience in an F1 car.

It was on the middle of the straight, no where near the braking zone.

Ok take out the words 'under braking' from my previous post. http://www.motorsportforums.com/imag...lies/smile.gif

Huh. Well, I have to say Kamui exceeded my expectations and managed to handle pressure extremely well with his defensive driving. But I continually have reservations about expecting him to become a major force in F1 in the future though. His GP2 seasons have been simply too hopeless and I can't believe he has turned into a great driver overnight.

He seems good in racing against other cars, but quite obviously lacked raw pace, especially in the second half of the race - probably something to do with lack of stamina to endure a full F1 GP. But other rookies - namely Grosjean and Alguersuari - were completely off-pace, so compared to them Kobayashi did well. But that's about it really and we even don't know, how good benchmarks those two might be in this respect.

I thought Kobayashi did extremely well, considering this was his first race. So well, in fact, that I can imagine the guys in the Ferrari paddock probably wondered why their experienced reserves couldn't do as well as this raw rookie.

The usual people wrap everything in anti-Button sentiment - so damn stupid.

Why didn't Jenson just DIVE through at first?
Because aside from that " side matter" of becoming world champion - he had no idea how the Jap would react in a tight situation.

Jenson had already locked up as Kobayashi swerved under braking and being extremely circumspect is good driving until a good opportunity is found and used to pass. This Jenson did.

New drivers, let alone veteran drivers that act like morons on the race track have frequently taken other drivers out of the race in a collision.

So those that are praising Kobayashi - wake the goddamn hell up! - one race indicates nothing [and I would list exampled but that would raise the ire of the moderator because it is motor racing history and considered off topic] and just ask Kazuki Nakajima what HE thinks of Kubayashi's swerving.

Now maybe in "normal" circumstances Jenson would say nothing, but the pressure winniing the world title and having a debuting driver being obstructive in the most vivid way as if he were racing in GP2 or F3, then calling the team on the radio and complaining is completely valid.

Whining is whining. Jenson couldn't make the pass stick, period. Even the commentators were saying that he needed to just get on with it and outdrive Kobayashi rather than complain on the radio.

Quit reducing yourself to thinking your opinion is the only one allowed and maybe you'll get over it. Until then, at least try to act like an adult and keep yourself from making blanket rants at everyone who doesn't agree. A lot of people on these forums have differing opinions, yet very few manage to reduce themselves to the level of cursing and ranting at everyone else.



For a first race, I thought he did very well. I think he did make a bad move with Nakajima, but to be honest it was no worse than what Webber did to Kimi. If he keeps driving with such intensity, he might be someone to watch.

Echoing the general sentiment here, I too thought Koba did very well.

Considering that he had never raced in F1 (his neck muscles probably took a beating in that anti-clock circuit, even experienced drivers suffer there).

Considering that he had not even drove an F1 car since Feb, and the car has had several modifications since

Considering that he had never raced in Brazil before and didn't know the track

He did very very well. I'm glad. Japan can be happy too. They seem to have a deserving F1 driver in the making.

I think he did fantastic, and I was surprised on saturday itself. In his first ever qualifying session, he almost made it to Q3 and qualified better than Mr. champion Button driving a Brawn! Then in the race defended his position beautifully. No excuses there about weaving or blah blah. Button = In F1 for more than 10 years, 100 plus races. Kobayashi = First EVER F1 race!!

I'm abit surprised a few here class a single sentence made by Button as whining. He expressed that he thought Koby was blocking in the breaking zones, and as far as we know he mentioned this once over a muffled radio. Hardly whining, more frustration IMO, and lets not try to say that he is the only driver who gets frustrated over the radio. A few laps later he made his move and the rest is history. I've heard worst comments during a race from the likes of Trulli, Massa, Alonso and Hamilton to be honest, and even then I can relate. http://www.motorsportforums.com/imag...lies/smile.gif

There is one thing I don't understand. Why does Button's voice sound so distorted over the radio compared to all the other drivers? It almost sounds like he is crying.

Who knows? To me he sounds more out of breath than crying, but as we know Button is very fit with his triathlon activity away from the track. Felipe also tends to sound panicked over his radio, so perhaps its due to the stresses on their bodies and how each individual handles it.. http://www.motorsportforums.com/imag...lies/smile.gif

Or maybe Brawn's radio equipment is crap. http://www.motorsportforums.com/imag...ies/tongue.gif

Because Hamilton on the radio sounds like he's sitting in the commentary booth. http://www.motorsportforums.com/imag...es/biggrin.gif

I think Kobayashi put in an impressive first drive. I can understand sides of the fence here.

He was a bit lary in the braking zone, but that is down to his apprenticeship in GP2 and general inexperience.

Button HAD to be careful, this was a rookie he had to pass, and he has the WDC at stake. He did the right thing - if he was wiped out he would look a right tit wouldn't he?

It can be down to a number of factors.

Helmet design, equipment used, microphone type and placement (throat or helmet) and even type of voice pitch. Lower voices travel better than higher pitched voices.

One man's whine is another man's vinegar I guess.

I don't think Kamui did anything wrong, just defended hard. He showed some skillful driving, particularly to cut back inside after Button's first attempt at a pass when he ran too deep.
But on the other hand I can hardly blame Button for expressing his frustration, knowing that if he passed Kobayashi he would put himself in a position to win the championship.

I wonder why no-one has called Rubens on his comments over the radio, which were far more like whining than Button's.

You're right, McLaren's radio does sound very clear doesn't it. I guess McLaren have a bigger budget than Brawn http://www.motorsportforums.com/imag...lies/smile.gif

TBH I was quite glad the Brawn radio is a bit indistinct when he started singing at the end http://www.motorsportforums.com/images/smilies/eek.gif

Even one word can be classed like whining. Get over it, he was complaining and trying to have the race director help him out. That's called whining.

Than the logical result is that he was crying. Good, glad we settled that.

Calling Button a moaner/cry baby for not passing Koby is low and poor excuse to critcise Button.

It's all part and parcel of the emotions of winning/wanting to win.

Button ended up passing Koby so what is their to complain about?