[clubcughSheet]

Yeah, I didn't notice it there. And neither did anybody else, it seems. Besides, that thread is waaay past the point where it should've been locked.

[katespepach]

The RCC is apparently full of Orthodox saboteurs who are trying to oversee its self-implosion.

[Ikrleprl]

Elok, I don't know what to say to you.

Does it make you feel better to do this?

[Gubocang]

You should be celebrating.

You have another convert. I hope he serves you better than he did his previous master.

[beonecenry]

So now you think Elok is an atheist because he condemns the Church's handling of the pedophiles? No, I think that Elok no longer is a follower of Christ.

He serves a different master these days.

Only true Christians support child rape by priests, is that right? This has nothing to do with this.

Everything to do with several things.

1, he is posting this on Easter.
2, he is happy that this is happening to the Catholic church.
3, he is celebrating sin.

So, whatever prompted Elok to throw his lot in with everyone else who hates Christ, well, I'm not sure. I hope he's happy with his decision.

There are many who call themselves Christian who actively work against Him these days.

[invest7manager]

No, I think that Elok no longer is a follower of Christ.

He serves a different master these days.

Satan?

God, you are a tool.

This has nothing to do with this.

Everything to do with several things.

1, he is posting this on Easter. He is posting this on April 3rd. You are posting this on Easter, not him.

2, he is happy that this is happening to the Catholic church. You're a ****ing douchebag. He's celebrating the blatant stupidity of a senior Vatican priest. Any intelligent person could see this.

3, he is celebrating sin. No, you're the one celebrating sin.

You are an evil man, Ben. You may or may not be a pedophile, but you're certainly not much better by backing up the Church's actions in enabling priests to become repeat pedophiles.

Shame on you.

[favwebbb]

How do I feel?

I feel that the Catholic church is speaking exactly how I feel on a day to day basis.

Isn't it interesting?

What the master says, you feel. You are nothing but an impotent puppet for a perverted master.

I don't see it as insulting to compare the persecution of the Catholic church with the persecution of the Jewish people. No one is persecuting the Catholic church. People in the church committed crimes and the church covered these up, which enabled more crimes to be committed. These are facts.

It is not at all the same thing as the persecution of the Jews. We're at that point where, like any religious argument, when the religious people can't argue on the grounds of realit they resort to the argument of "anything you say remotely bad about the organization I worship is persecution!".

It's ****ing weak.

I would hope that the Jews would open their eyes and see that just because they are not the targets this time, does not mean that they will be spared. This sounds like a threat.

The same people who hate us, hate them with a passion, and there are a great many people working to destroy Israel and her people. Where the **** do you get this ****? I hate pedophile priests, but I do not hate Jews.

The question is, why do you love pedophiles, Ben?

That someone who calls himself a devout Orthodox believer has jumped into the fray here, I see as a sign of the times. Some people call it enlightenment. You're still stuck in those dark ages.


This is our holiest day of the year, Blackcat, and we have many threads on here bashing us. This tells me that there is a significant amount of hate for the Catholic church and what she stands for. There is nothing holy about Saturday, April 3rd. **** off with your persecution complex.

People persecute you because you are a ****ing douche and potential pedophile and definitive psychopath. The fact that you are Catholic is only upsetting to other Catholics.

[namaikaimvputka]

Ben, I lack the words to express my opinion of you in proper english. You say that the legal actions against the prisests that have molested children and their protectors are comparable with the persecution of jews during the nazi regime of europe in the 30-40'ies ????

It is pretty astounding, isn't it?

[ReggieRed]

Satan?

God, you are a tool. Perhaps, I don't know. There are many masters.

Everything to do with several things.

1, he is posting this on Easter.

He is posting this on April 3rd. You are posting this on Easter, not him. Easter begins at nightfall.

You're a ****ing douchebag. He's celebrating the blatant stupidity of a senior Vatican priest. Any intelligent person could see this. Again, why would this reflect well on a believer?


You are an evil man, Ben. You may or may not be a pedophile, but you're certainly not much better by backing up the Church's actions in enabling priests to become repeat pedophiles. In the face of evidence showing that ecclesiastical courts tend to be harsher than secular courts I fail to see how you've drawn this interpretation. Perhaps because you tend to disregard evidence contrary to your own contention.

I've shown that the average release time is around 2 years for all sexual offenders in the secular courts. This is much lower than what the punishments the ecclesial courts inflict which last in perpetuity.

[allmyflights]

Easter begins at nightfall.

How the **** is 4pm on a Saturday easter? Isn't lying a sin, Ben?

Again, why would this reflect well on a believer? One can be a believer while recognizing great evil and stupidity within the same church. How else would you describe pedophile priests if they're not evil?

The fact that you defend them at all is greatly disturbing and completely unchristian.

[flueftArete]

Blackcat:

No, quite the opposite. His remarks are quite cogent. Just because you see the comparison as offensive, likely means that he is in harmony with what Christ wants, because you typically take offense to all expressions of Christ.

Please vote in my poll, Ben: http://www.apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?t=190843

[AblemTee]

Ben, I lack the words to express my opinion of you in proper english. You say that the legal actions against the prisests that have molested children and their protectors are comparable with the persecution of jews during the nazi regime of europe in the 30-40'ies ???? No, I say that the words you wish to express are akin to those of antisemites towards Jews.

[erepsysoulptnw]

Calling me a 'perverted servant', and 'subhuman' as you have in the past, is word for word what antisemites have called Jews.

You are not a perverted servant and subhuman because you are catholic.

You are a perverted servant and subhuman because of who YOU are. Because YOU are a pathetic excuse of a human being. Because YOU are evil. Because YOU are ignorant. Because YOU are a sociopath.

I think having at least one Catholic bashing thread on Poly's front page through all of Holy Week constitutes persecution. It's not persecution for non-believers in the church to express displeasure with the fact that some believers of the church like to rape children.

Yes, it is a threat, but not from us. When you fail to stand up against the persecution of one group, you tacitly condone persecution to yourself. No one group is persecuted. Catholics who go to church are not being persecuted. Pedophile priests and the organizational structure who covered them up and enabled them to reoffend are.

I do not expect you to understand because you are a perverted servant and sub-human.

Oh really? Have you ever posted anything supportive of Israel? I've not seen a word in almost 10 years here from you on this matter. That's because I don't give a **** one way or another. Why would you assume my silence is anti-semitism? God, you're a tool.

It's not my ****ing country, it's not my ****ing problem.

Well I fail to see how I fulfill all of these categories. Perhaps you project on me what you see in yourself. These are pretty vile accusations, Asher. They are vile accusations because you are a vile human. I am very serious when I say you are a sociopath, psychopath, and in need of serious help. Whether you get some serious Christian guidance or you see a psychiatrist, it doesn't matter to me. You are one massively flawed human being in every way imaginable, and you need to fix yourself.

[reiseebup]

I think having at least one Catholic bashing thread on Poly's front page through all of Holy Week constitutes persecution.

Does this mean that gays are persecuted due to your homophobic threads?

[QqJamxqP]

I think Elok serves Jesus far better than does Ben. I am not surprised. You would only shock me by saying otherwise. I'm glad to see you and I see eye to eye on this.

I do think that his views on the Lord have become so twisted that he is doing a disservice. Again, thanks. I'm glad to know I'm on the right track.

[lammaredder]

Whether you get some serious Christian guidance or you see a psychiatrist, it doesn't matter to me. You are one massively flawed human being in every way imaginable, and you need to fix yourself.

I must, unfortunately, agree . Jesus is, at his core, love. He sacrificed himself, putting himself through torture, in order to pay the price for our sins and give us the gift of eternal life. I find Ben talks far more about hatred and anger. I do pray that Ben actually finds a personal relationship with Jesus Christ instead of perverting the Lord's words and message.

[Zebrabitch]

Does this mean that gays are persecuted due to your homophobic threads? Do people call the gay posters here "perverts", "subhuman", "pedophiles", and "psychopaths?" and still retain posting privileges?

[Piediahef]

And how is this any different than what was said many years about the Jews?

I suppose it should not surprise me that your brain is incapable of understanding the differences between persecuting someone because they are a member of a group versus making individual observations of a specific person based on their specific actions.

This is because you are stupid.

Note that this comment is not persecuting Catholics, it's calling you stupid because you happen to be a massive tool.

People like you Asher, made me what I am today. Had you been content to confine your comments and to praise the Church on occasion, I'd probably still be an evangelical. But people like yourself caused me to reconsider why. Oh, jesus, this made my day.

Then why the need for new threads every day on this topic? It's a big ****ing deal.

No, I simply said, I've not ever seen you defend Israel. Perhaps I should have presumed that you go to temple every Saturday but I would wager my first assumption is nearer to the mark. I don't defend it, but I don't attack it either. It's not my place to say.

Indeed. Which is why I follow Christ. If I were perfect in everyway like yourself, I'd worship me. You "follow" Christ because you are a follower. You're weak-willed. You are worthless. You need someone else to think for you, because as this and EVERY SINGLE OTHER THREAD you have ever posted in has demonstrated, you are significantly disabled by mental retardation.

There are leaders and followers in life, just like there are tops and bottoms in sex. You happen to be a bottom in life, Ben. And Christ is your top.

[Fegasderty]

Do people call the gay posters here "perverts", "subhuman", "pedophiles", and "psychopaths?" and still retain posting privileges?

No one has called all Christians here "perverts", "subhuman", "pedophiles", and "psychopaths" either. Just one person has been called all these things. And actually, I believe the phrase was "potential pedophile" (it was downgraded from "probable" because it was too harsh )

[FateHostera]

No one has called all Christians here "perverts", "subhuman", "pedophiles", and "psychopaths" either. Just one person has been called all these things. And actually, I believe the phrase was "potential pedophile" (it was downgraded from "probable" because it was too harsh You have in the past been quite fond of "pedophile".

Are you suggesting that all of these terms would be appropriate to describe yourself?