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Old 02-15-2009, 02:31 AM   #1
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Default CLIMATE/FORESTS ALERT: Urge President Obama to Say No to Filthy Canadian Tar Sands
Oh noes, they want to take down the prized oil sands Asher is always so full of! Bummer!
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Old 02-15-2009, 03:33 AM   #2
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I'd imagine it would be easier to topple Stephen Harper right now than it would be to somehow influence this through Obama.
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Old 02-15-2009, 05:39 AM   #3
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I'd imagine it would be easier to topple Stephen Harper right now than it would be to somehow influence this through Obama.
This has very little to do with Harper.
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Old 02-15-2009, 06:32 AM   #4
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At least it would be useful for something.
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Old 02-15-2009, 06:49 AM   #5
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Since we have some of our own, I doubt we'll shy away from the Canadian stuff.

And we're trying to make jet fuel from coal too. At least the Air Force is. Maybe they can wipe up the mess with the Kyoto treaty.
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Old 02-15-2009, 08:43 AM   #6
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This has very little to do with Harper.
But even less to do with Obama. My suggestion was a minor incremental improvement over the original.
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Old 02-15-2009, 08:59 PM   #7
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Worst thing Obama could do for the US economy right now is drive up energy costs and increase their reliance on middle-eastern Oil.

Obama doesn't care about getting the U.S. off Middle-Eastern oil. If he did, he wouldn't have rescinded Bush's executive order allowing for oil exploration in large areas off America's coasts that were previously off-limits.
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Old 02-15-2009, 09:56 PM   #8
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I should've figured you'd know how much oil lies in unexplored U.S. coastal regions. Your dad is in the oil business, right?

At any rate, any person who claims to want to wean the United States off Middle-Eastern oil but doesn't support both reducing demand via increased efficiency and conservation and increasing supply via increased exploitation of domestic oil sources is fundamentally unserious.
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Old 02-16-2009, 02:32 AM   #9
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Given that China, India et al are inevitably going to more than pick up the slack for any attempts at carbon reduction we make, I see no point in crippling our industry. Not that we shouldn't be pushing alternative energy, since the fossil fuels are going to run out someday--and those have the obnoxious habit of being located mostly in bass-ackwards, violent little hellholes.

We're all doomed, there's jack squat we can do about it...let's all have a drink! Or two, or twelve!
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Old 02-16-2009, 07:35 PM   #10
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Oh joY! They have sent a further rallying call!

Dear colleagues,
The press release and alert regarding Canada's Tar Sands
may be the most important climate alert we have ever done.
Please send the alert at:
http://www.climateark.org/shared/ale...bama_tar_sands

It would be a global disaster if tar sands were exempted
from future global warming regulation. Please forward the
release and alert to friends and media in your area.
For the Earth,
Dr. Glen Barry
**************************

PRESS/SOCIAL MEDIA RELEASE
President Obama Urged to Say No to Canada's Tar Sands

- Canadian government wants special treatment for the
world's dirtiest oil. In first international trip,
President Obama must stand strong on clean energy and
sufficient climate policies.

February 16, 2009
By Earth's Newsdesk, a project of Ecological Internet
http://www.ecoearth.info/newsdesk/
CONTACT: Dr. Glen Barry, glenbarry@ecologicalinternet.org

(Seattle, WA) -- On February 19, President Barack Obama
travels to Canada on his first international trip as
President, where he will face pressure from the
Government of Canada to support production of Alberta's
filthy tar sands oil. An international network of
environmental groups has launched the "Obama2Canada"
campaign[1] urging President Obama to stand strong on his
new energy economy agenda and reject entreaties from
Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper to shelter the
dirtiest oil on earth from global warming regulation.

"Tar sands oil is the dirtiest form of energy in the
world. It has no place in President Obama's plans for a
clean energy economy," said Sierra Club Dirty Fuels
Campaign Coordinator Pat Gallagher. "Tar sands oil
accelerates global warming. It destroys forests. It
endangers public health. Instead of importing this
expensive, dirty oil, we can invest in clean energy that
will create millions of much-needed, sustainable jobs."

Called oil sands by proponents, tar sands are the very
dirtiest of fossil fuels. Producing oil from tar sands
emits three times the global warming pollution as
conventional oil, requires excessive amounts of energy
and fresh water, and destroys huge swaths of ancient
boreal forest. Given its massive carbon footprint, tar
sands would almost certainly prove unviable under any
reasonable climate change regulations. Along with ending
the use of coal and old growth forest destruction,
stopping tar sands is essential global climate policy
required to maintain an operable atmosphere.

### MORE ###

Ecological Internet's Earth Action Network has launched
an independent affinity email protest campaign[2]. There
global citizens can let the new President know how
seriously they take climate change, urge him to reject
tar sands, and support further immediate urgent action in
pursuit of sufficient climate change policies.

"This may be our most important climate campaign ever.
Tar sands development is the most ecologically
destructive project in the world. When fully developed,
tar sands will indefinitely continue North America's
addiction to climate destroying fossil fuels, ensuring
abrupt and runaway climate change exceeds safe levels.
There is virtually no chance of minimizing climate change
and achieving global ecological sustainability should tar
sands production continue or expand," says Ecological
Internet President Dr. Glen Barry.

### ENDS ###

[1] Obama2Canada Contacts:
Kristina Johnson, Sierra Club (415) 977-5619
Jennifer Foulds, Environmental Defence Canada, (416) 323-
9521 x 232
Lisa McCrummen, Obama2Canada: (206) 321-9461

More information, including photos, B-roll video and
other campaign materials are available on
http://www.obama2canada.org/

[2] TAKE ACTION:
Urge President Obama to Say No to Canada's Filthy Tar Sands
http://www.climateark.org/shared/ale...bama_tar_sands

DISCUSS RELEASE:
http://www.climateark.org/blog/2009/...bama-urged.asp

###ENDS###

Ecological Internet provides the world's largest and most
used climate and environment portals at
http://www.climateark.org/ and http://www.ecoearth.info/ .
Dr. Glen Barry is a leading global spokesperson on
behalf of environmental sustainability policy. He
frequently conducts interviews on the latest climate,
forest and water policy developments and can be reached
for comment at: glenbarry@ecologicalinternet.org We must stop those filthy Canadians before they render our atmosphere inoperable!
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Old 02-17-2009, 02:21 AM   #11
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There are French people in Ottawa...
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Old 02-17-2009, 02:47 AM   #12
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I thought they were officially considered freedom people.
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Old 02-17-2009, 05:10 AM   #13
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Some would like that.
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Old 02-18-2009, 04:49 AM   #14
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since the fossil fuels are going to run out someday--and those have the obnoxious habit of being located mostly in bass-ackwards, violent little hellholes.
There's more to Alberta than Calgary. Yeah, Banff and Jasper National Parks.
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