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Old 06-04-2008, 01:31 PM   #1
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Default Desertification Of Southeast Spain Proceeding Rapidly
Desertification of the landscape and agriculture near Fortuna, Spain.



I must say that really does look like true desert. In SoCal there is at least Oak trees, a full ground cover of grass, and lots of thick chaperal even when conditions are very dry. I feel sorry for the people of southern Spain who will have their livelihoods destroyed by climate change.
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Old 06-04-2008, 02:27 PM   #2
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They have a water shortage yet

Golf courses - 54 of them, all built in the past decade and most in the past three years - give way to the beach.

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Old 06-04-2008, 03:37 PM   #3
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No one ever said developers were smart. Most of them don't care about long term planning and instead just want to make a quick buck then get out of town.
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Old 06-04-2008, 04:08 PM   #4
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Las Vegas and much of Arizona easily fall into that category. Building water intensive golf courses in the desert then whining about not enough water.
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Old 06-04-2008, 04:32 PM   #5
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I thought exactly the same about the American SW and the use of dammed up Colorado water from Glenn Canyon and Lake Powell.

The sad thing is that the article in the OIP doesn't even mention the devastating region of Almerķa called the "Plastic Sea" where half Europe gets its vegetables from; or the Costa del Sol, which is now being advertized as - and this makes me really sick - "Costa del Golf"! And really, one golf course after the other.
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Old 06-04-2008, 05:39 PM   #6
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Originally posted by Oerdin
There is only one problem with this picture of bounty: This province, Murcia, is running out of water. Spurred on by global warming and poorly planned development, swaths of southeast Spain are steadily turning into desert. They're going to have to invest in infrastructure if they want to continue with "poorly planned development".
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Old 06-04-2008, 06:35 PM   #7
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Just the one in the article.
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Old 06-04-2008, 06:54 PM   #8
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Originally posted by Oerdin
No one ever said developers were smart. Most of them don't care about long term planning and instead just want to make a quick buck then get out of town. Free market
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Old 06-04-2008, 09:07 PM   #9
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Yeah, cuz I defend Stalinism all the time.
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Old 06-04-2008, 09:12 PM   #10
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Originally posted by OneFootInTheGrave
this Feb when I was in Barcelona (north Spain) it was warmer than now in June here in UK... looked great to me, but my colleague told me that during the summer time he will be moving somewhere north You live in the UK?
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Old 06-04-2008, 10:06 PM   #11
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Maybe they can do what SoCal does, Oerdin, and still their water from Shasta.
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Old 06-04-2008, 11:29 PM   #12
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Spain should've turned off 'random events' before starting.
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Old 06-04-2008, 11:54 PM   #13
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Old 06-05-2008, 12:03 AM   #14
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Originally posted by Japher
Maybe they can do what SoCal does, Oerdin, and still their water from Shasta. http://www.querycat.com/faq/1001edc9...0116b41d244a4d

Seems 90% comes from "northern California & the Colorado river" with only 10% being local. That's for drinking water though I do know there is a grey water delivery system for agriculture and industry. Most landscaping is grey water these days.
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Old 06-05-2008, 01:13 AM   #15
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Yeah, but no one is 100% effiecent. It is part of the human design AFAICS
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Old 06-05-2008, 03:04 AM   #16
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The Sahara desert and it arid belt have been expanding for millenia.
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Old 06-06-2008, 06:07 PM   #17
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Originally posted by Traianvs


ah you know damn well he was a totalitarian bastard. In my book communism does not necessarily entail a lack of democracy and good governance.

Besides, everyone in the world was (and still is) wasting the earth and its resources anyway. It doesn't matter the issue or the commie gov in question - If they did wrong a commie will tell you they weren't real commies. It's a very tired excuse.
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Old 06-06-2008, 09:07 PM   #18
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Can't they just build solar-powered desal plants? Or even better, nuclear-powered?
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Old 06-07-2008, 12:10 PM   #19
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Of course the real problem is the divergence of water for beer breweries that are required to keep the army of brit tourists along Costa Brava and del Sol satiated.
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