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Old 04-22-2008, 04:21 AM   #21
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Originally posted by Ben Kenobi

It's like a perpetual motion machine. I can imagine one in my head, but in the real world it's impossible.

I'm glad to see Harper is willing to restore the balance within the civil service so that we get a few conservatives in there.

Suspicion confirmed.


Give me a sec.

Ok, here's the deal. Harper wanted to set up a means to implement senate elections with Elections Canada, similar to what has already happened. The idea being that when the provinces decide to hold senate elections, the protocols would already be in place.

Harper can't even elect senators without the agreement of the individual provinces, so rather then having 10 different setups, he figured it was better to do it just once.

I'm not sure why you believe he could simply 'impose senate reform'. Without the constitution, all he can do is agree to respect the will of the people, but he is not bound to do so.

You said they have commented against Harper's proposals for Senate reform. This should be an easy link to provide. I'll ask you a second time to please provide one.

I can see what Harper is trying to do and it's a necessary step. Elections Canada should stop stonewalling and do their jobs.

Their job is what parliament has mandated. This does not include preparing for hypothetical senate elections.

Hence my disdain of the whole 'scandal'. I am really getting tired of the hyperbole.

I'm getting tired of the crookedness. It looks particularly bad however when you are the party elected on the back of your oppositions money scandal.

Liberals are only targets when they are implicating other Liberals.

Is this an admission that you can't back up the BS claim from earlier? Liberals can be and are targets of wrongdoing investigations?

The default is set to Conservative. Why is this so hard to understand? The civil service is overwhelmingly liberal. Of course there is going to be friction, but as you said, the job of the civil service should transcend party differences. They need to sit down and do their jobs rather then playing gotcha games. /tinfoil hat
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Old 04-22-2008, 04:44 AM   #22
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Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
You honestly believe the civil service we have right now is 'impartial'? Probably not by a Conservative's definition.

I want some of whatever you are smoking. You can't have it. I paid good money for it.
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Old 04-27-2008, 04:56 PM   #23
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Originally posted by Krill
Something Mccain [s]almost[/s] forgot about as well. Fixed.

Edit: What's the code for striking a line again?
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Old 04-27-2008, 05:15 PM   #24
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Good.

That's how you respond to bullies.

If they seriously did not want a fight, then they shouldn't have opened one up against the Conservatives in the first place.

I'm tired of supposedly 'non-partisan' civil servants taking potshots at a government they don't like. They should just sit down and do their jobs.
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Old 04-28-2008, 02:21 AM   #25
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More Conservative victimhood.

OTTAWA - There's word the Harper government wants to require Parliament's independent watchdogs to get permission before barking.

Auditor General Sheila Fraser says a draft proposal is being floated that could require officers of Parliament to have their communications vetted by the Privy Council Office - the bureaucratic wing of the prime minister's office.

That would mean Fraser - along with the head of Elections Canada, and the privacy, information and ethics commissioners - would all need to get approval to speak publicly.

Fraser, who smashed open the sponsorship scandal, says there's no way she would agree to such a restriction.

Such a change would represent a drastic departure from tradition and mark a new milestone for government whose strict control over messaging is already legendary.

The Conservatives played down concerns of tighter control, with Treasury Board President Vic Toews saying the government respects the independence of Parliament's officers and would not act against that spirit of independence.


http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Crime/20...882360-cp.html
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