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Old 07-26-2007, 07:01 PM   #1
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They will run the country in the ground... No wait...

Seriously, it might have to do with the type of people you hang out with, namely the rather nationalistic type.

It is funny how coherent thought seems to be impossible when you move to far to the right or left on the scale.
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Old 07-26-2007, 07:07 PM   #2
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Originally posted by dannubis
They will run the country in the ground... No wait...

Seriously, it might have to do with the type of people you hang out with, namely the rather nationalistic type.

It is funny how coherent thought seems to be impossible when you move to far to the right or left on the scale. As I said, random people. I didn't know these people before the interview, and I most probably won't know them much later, either. I have no idea what their leanings were or are (except that they're total nutjobs, apparently).
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Old 07-26-2007, 07:13 PM   #3
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Your calling has come, Aneesh. You must save your country from Fascism. "Against stupidity, the gods themselves contend in vain."
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Old 07-26-2007, 07:32 PM   #4
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When I was young I was attracted by him; thinking how he sacrificied himself for is country, his nation.

Before I began to know more about him
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Old 07-26-2007, 07:39 PM   #5
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This explains India's recent agressor actions.
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Old 07-26-2007, 08:11 PM   #6
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Originally posted by CrONoS
What people liked about Hitler is how; he became an hysteric, neurotic human being. Or how weak he really was. How he was unable to face reality. I think what people like is that a common man united a country to wage war against the world. Regardless of how evil you may think him the man had to be cunning and genius to achieve such a feat. If you think otherwise then let me know when you've done the same.
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Old 07-26-2007, 08:24 PM   #7
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Originally posted by CrONoS

Or the fact that he hated dreaming(mainly he was disgusted by many physical process), he always said that he didn't like what he dream, he did took many kind of pills to stay awake;

What people liked about Hitler is how he was easily irritated by things, how he over reacted to benign situation; he became an hysteric, neurotic human being. Or how weak he really was. How he was unable to face reality. I think a lot of his admirers see him as the 20th century Napoleon. But, if you ask me, he wasn't exactly of Napoleon's caliber
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Old 07-26-2007, 08:30 PM   #8
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Originally posted by nostromo

I think a lot of his admirers see him as the 20th century Napoleon. But, if you ask me, he wasn't exactly of Napoleon's caliber hehehe,

badly, he tried to be a caricature.
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Old 07-26-2007, 08:32 PM   #9
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Now, this week we were asked to conduct mock interviews of random people from our batch. A person from my group asked another person who their idol was.

"Hitler."

I couldn't believe it in the beginning. What sort of an idiot answers "Hitler" to a question like that, in an environment supposed to simulate a corporate interview? I raised an objection (even though I wasn't really involved, I couldn't let something like this go). You are still in India, are you not?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/4711475.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/5275866.stm
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Old 07-26-2007, 08:40 PM   #10
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Originally posted by CrONoS
Hitler appeared at the right time, and the right moments. He wasn't a genius; he was just profoundly mentally sick. I'm not a Hitler buff, but I think he was fairly sane up until 1943 (Then he started to deteriorate. Probably the alleged syphilis and all the drugs.) A crazy person couldn't have done what he has done. A lot of people try to find comfort in the belief that he was crazy. Its not as simple as that.
He was an antisemite, yes, but antisemitism was rampant at the time. Even our Prime Minister at the time, William Mackensie King, was an antisemite. According to Wikipedia:

King hoped an outbreak of war in the 1930s could be averted and he therefore supported the appeasement policies of the British. He met with Adolf Hitler who, he remarked in his journal, came across as "a reasonable and caring man ... who might be thought of as one of the saviors of the world." Telling a Jewish delegation that Kristallnacht "might turn out to be a blessing," he refused to allow Jewish refugees who were attempting to leave Nazi Germany entry into Canada. Another thing. For a while, I thought that it was naive to call him evil. But then I realized: if he isn't evil, who is?

Cronos, have you read "Les Bienveillantes"? If so, what did you think about it?
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Old 07-26-2007, 08:56 PM   #11
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Originally posted by DinoDoc
You are still in India, are you not?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/4711475.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/5275866.stm CORPORATE INTERVIEW, remember?!

And as for that restaurant - it was done for shock value, and therefore free publicity. The local Jewish community was mighty pissed. IIRC, the owner re-themed it after there was a massive outcry.

Funny thing is, nobody in India is bothered to be really anti-Semitic because very few people are even aware that there exists a Jewish community in India, and the few who know about it know that it's completely insignificant in the larger Indian scheme of things. Being anti-Semitic in India makes about as much sense as being anti-Buddhist in Africa or Europe. The one exception is a very small and probably insignificant segment of the fundamentalists within the Indian Muslim community (who, again, themselves don't really matter in the larger Indian scheme of things, and are as insignificant as the targets of their hate).
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Old 07-26-2007, 09:16 PM   #12
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Cronos, have you read "Les Bienveillantes"? If so, what did you think about it? nope, is it good? I heard bad and good review of the books.
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Old 07-26-2007, 09:44 PM   #13
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nope, is it good? I heard bad and good review of the books. As a novel, no. But its crammed with historical information about the period. Seems pretty solid and up to date. That was pretty interesting.
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Old 07-27-2007, 05:44 AM   #14
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wtf?
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Old 07-27-2007, 05:45 AM   #15
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Originally posted by nostromo

He was an antisemite, yes, but antisemitism was rampant at the time. But not all antisemites, even the ones who became Prime Minister of their countries, thought of Jews as 'racial bacilli' or 'tuberculosis' and set in motion a mass extermination programme for their own citizens.


A crazy person couldn't have done what he has done. Depends what you mean by crazy. He exhibited paranoiac and megalomaniacal tendencies and certainly appeared to have fits of uncontrollable rage- rather like Ivan the Terrible or the Fatimid Caliph Hakim.
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Old 07-28-2007, 06:57 PM   #16
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WTF? That is just ****ing wrong!
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Old 07-29-2007, 04:37 AM   #17
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Sums it up. Pretty much all we learn about WW2 over here (apart from Japan vs. Britain in SE Asia and India's eastern border) is that Germany under Hitler fought all of teh world's great powers and was almost a match for them. Which really ought to be an admiration of Germany's capabilities. Heck, I can't help feeling tremendous respect for Germany during WWI and WWII even though I don't sympathise with the imperial or the fascist system at all. It's just that Germany's organisational, technological and productive strength gets funneled to the person of Hitler amongst some people.
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Old 07-29-2007, 05:18 PM   #18
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white Aryans > brown Dravidians => Hitler love?

Eg a Pol Sci professor visited northern India once and encountered some "Aryan bar" where he as a white man was allowed, but "the monkeys from the south" were not.

???????
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