[ToifvT5S]

wrong thread.
You missed the point. LOTS & LOTS of natural healers accept donations or charge minimal fees, I personally know hundreds of them......
this is about a ONE OF A KIND RARE U.S. M.D.
There are tons of threads on all the other kind of natural doctors, he is NOT a natural doctor.

OHL... first I didnt want to mention "natural medicine" but only that many doctors works for peanuts in the world, especially in India. Edit: is it really such a deal in the end?

btw, I am not inclined to fragment topics that share a lot in common. It is about medicine and humility, no? conventional or not, we are looking at the "action" here, arent we? I said a bit about aryuvedic medicine because of its ageless background, hence donations driven practice..

how can we be sure that he is one of a kind in america? I wouldnt bet on that. However, I really found the article compelling.

[Muesrasrs]

OHL,
Nope... I'm still clueless.
You say that people "need" mainstream medicine, even though it most often does not heal them, and can actually cause harm, but the doctor in the OP is somehow a "GOOD GUY" because he is "old fashioned" and doesn't rape their pocket book too. Probably a GREAT guy to visit, prescribes poisons for instant gratification with a smile and good-old-timey personal warmth...
Wrong is wrong. Poison is poison. A "cure" that doesn't work, or creates further complications, is no cure at all. I see nothing admirable about a "do-gooder" who leads people down the wrong health path, regardless of how well intentioned and charitable he is. Sorry.

actually you make a good point... nothing to do with the OHL standpoint but the media here... I can see this everywhere now. The Media raise us this way, to admire made-up heroes and brainwash us with half truths.

I am sure that this doctor regards himself as "an exceptional being"... thats ironic and cynical. The world is just too doomed....

[PemiaGefe]

How can you afford to stay open when you bring in that little money? He has to pay his staff, pay his overhead, pay his own wages, out of $5 visits? How many people does he see a day? Even if he sees 50 patients daily, that's only $250.

The article says he sees patients 7 days a week.


250 x 7 = $1750/week

1750 x 4 = $7000/month

7000 x 50 = $350,000/year

350,000 x 35 = $12,250,000 over the last 35 years. (it says he adopted his $5 rate in the 1970s)


Maybe it doesn't take that much to run a small practice. It really shows you the depths to which we have been conditioned to expect medical services to be expensive.

[angeldimmon]

OHL,


I think you might have a bit of a "cognitive disconnect" going on here. You do NOT believe in mainstream medicine, pharmaceuticals, and modern medical practice... but you praise this guy as an "angel"?

He's an "Angel" for administering treatments that you are opposed to, as possibly harmful to the patient, just because he does so charitably? That's like praising a communist official who rounds up dissenters and executes them simply because he "works tirelessly and without pay".

I'm not being trying to be mean or anything... just trying to wrap my mind around your praise for this guy!

Western medicine is absolutely fantastic for trauma care. If I get into a car accident, please, take me to a western doctor!

They're bad at addressing the root causes of illnesses, and curing chronic diseases. But for trauma care? There's really no contest.

[HcMkOKiz]

Western medicine is absolutely fantastic for trauma care. If I get into a car accident, please, take me to a western doctor!

They're bad at addressing the root causes of illnesses, and curing chronic diseases. But for trauma care? There's really no contest.

100% agreed... with no reservations.

[zuhraliyana]

OHL,
Nope... I'm still clueless.
You say that people "need" mainstream medicine, even though it most often does not heal them, and can actually cause harm, but the doctor in the OP is somehow a "GOOD GUY" because he is "old fashioned" and doesn't rape their pocket book too. Probably a GREAT guy to visit, prescribes poisons for instant gratification with a smile and good-old-timey personal warmth...
Wrong is wrong. Poison is poison. A "cure" that doesn't work, or creates further complications, is no cure at all. I see nothing admirable about a "do-gooder" who leads people down the wrong health path, regardless of how well intentioned and charitable he is. Sorry.

Yes, very clueless.

Everyone with that kind of mindset says the same thing until someone they love and adore gets really, really sick
and can't help them and take them to the doctor for help because they don't know what to do or don't know what's
wrong with them. So no one that you love or care about goes to the doctor for anything and is completely all naturale, Gaillo ?

Not sure how old you are, you sound very young, twenties or thirties, must not have ever had a wife or girlfriend
give birth, must not have ever taken a sick loved one to a doctor for help then when they've refused natural care ?

Thats the vibe you're giving.

Doctors like the one in the OP do also give physicals, check your eyes, and examine other orifices of your body
without giving you a script.

People do have the option of not filling their script, too.

I hope to God that you or your loved ones never need a doctor for an illness or an outbreak of something that
you don't have the solution at home to help them.

I hope and pray to God that you let someone like the doctor in the OP help them if you can't or a natural person in your vicinity can't get them to take any herbs.....cause the way your suggesting is that you would rather do nothing
then because his poison medicine is wrong ??

You must not know very many sick people.

Good Luck with that in the very near future.

[Saduyre9de]

OHL,

You know nothing about me... and attacking me instead of addressing my point is counterproductive.

For your information:

I'm 44 years old, almost 45. I've been married once, for 10 years, now divorced. My ex-wife has a serious stomach condition that got her hooked on Prilosec for the entire time I was with her. She also had a miscarriage, heartbreaking hospital visit. My current GF and I have been together 11 years. She has a deformed throat, and is always choking on things. I've taken her to the ER several times. I have broken 2 bones in my life, my right thumb and my left leg. Did not seek medical help, let them both heal on their own.

Oh yeah... I'm pretty sure I have pancreatic cancer right now... dealing.

You seem to have taken this personally, so I'll do the same. Kindly get stuffed.

[UJRonald]

Dude, you can't have pancreatic cancer, that shit is not even an option to think about. Get an MRI if you can without breaking the bank.

In the meantime get some cultured vegetables (kraut) in you, so your pancreas won't have to work as hard secreting basically the same enzymes to aid digestion. I hammer the stuuf, along with raw garlic, and onions, make my own broccoli sprouts as well. Overdose on those sulphorophanes .

Pancreatic cancer is a few months, and that's it. Everyone I've ever known (three people), and everyone I've ever heard having it was boom lights out.

F-ck that scene!

[Soresbox]

OHL,

You know nothing about me... and attacking me instead of addressing my point is counterproductive.

For your information:

I'm 44 years old, almost 45. I've been married once, for 10 years, now divorced. My ex-wife has a serious stomach condition that got her hooked on Prilosec for the entire time I was with her. She also had a miscarriage, heartbreaking hospital visit. My current GF and I have been together 11 years. She has a deformed throat, and is always choking on things. I've taken her to the ER several times. I have broken 2 bones in my life, my right thumb and my left leg. Did not seek medical help, let them both heal on their own.

Oh yeah... I'm pretty sure I have pancreatic cancer right now... dealing.

You seem to have taken this personally, so I'll do the same. Kindly get stuffed.

You're right I didn't know anything about you, Gaillo, if I wasn't so brutally personal (everything's personal really) then you wouldn't have revealed all of that.

I have suffered 4 miscarriages myself when I was in my 20's ....I hemorrhaged & almost passed out when I lost my twins & had to go to the hospital for the horrific/heartbreaking experience (all over again).
I understand your pain & her pain & am so very sorry for the loss of her pregnancy.

Also am so very sorry about your girlfriend's throat problem, if the doctors don't help her, I'm sure there's something natural that can help her, Gaillo.
Was she born with it or was it caused by an acid problem ? I know a guy that had that, but his happened when he was older brought on by an illness.

And to read of your pain & suffering thinking you have pancreatic cancer ? OMG.
Why don't you want to get a diagnosis to be sure ? I hope you're totally wrong. Are you in alot of pain ?
If you don't want to get a diagnosis, I don't know why.

You don't have to do what they want you to do, you do what YOU want to do.

Please just find out , what about pancreatitis, is that a possibility ? Slippery Elm Bark can give you some relief.

You are a very stubborn person, like me ! I know that you do not ever want to have to use a necessary evil (a dr. ) but please just
think about it.....you need to see one for a diagnosis no matter how bad you don't want to.

You gotta get better !!!!

Don't hate me cause I told you to shove it !! I talk like a crazy old bitch, but my old man says I just have a lotta passion (wayyy too much) & overly express my smart mouth !
It usually works, no ? Hug,.
Do you accept my apology ? So sorry I got so personal & pushed & pushed & pushed you.
I'm trying to be less hyper, I swear, I'll try harder ! It's sooo hard ?!! UGH !

[clubcughSheet]

OHL,

It's OK. We're good.
The forum is having some kind of glitch, thanks button doesn't seem to be working right now... your post deserves one.

Yes, Henny's throat problem is from when she was born, not acid related. As for me, the day the white coats get a shred of my time, money, or cooperation is going to be a very cold day in hell... I didn't go to them for a broken leg, I'm not about to go to them for cancer. I'm doing apricot kernals, and watching my diet.

Be well,
-Gaillo

[Mumeseest]

OHL,
Nope... I'm still clueless.
You say that people "need" mainstream medicine, even though it most often does not heal them, and can actually cause harm, but the doctor in the OP is somehow a "GOOD GUY" because he is "old fashioned" and doesn't rape their pocket book too. Probably a GREAT guy to visit, prescribes poisons for instant gratification with a smile and good-old-timey personal warmth...
Wrong is wrong. Poison is poison. A "cure" that doesn't work, or creates further complications, is no cure at all. I see nothing admirable about a "do-gooder" who leads people down the wrong health path, regardless of how well intentioned and charitable he is. Sorry.

All I needed to see was the guy coming in with a sore throat (obviously a pussy), and the doc takes a quick look and prescribes antibiotics.

Fucking quack, no matter how much he charges.

[autoloanexpert]

All I needed to see was the guy coming in with a sore throat (obviously a pussy), and the doc takes a quick look and prescribes antibiotics.

Fucking quack, no matter how much he charges.

The patient is equally to blame no?

Everyone and their dog knows to try gargling salt water etc...it probably did not alleviate the problem. Antibiotics do work.

The guy charges $5, I doubt you're going to get an in depth consultation on holistic healing for that price.

Heck, for $5 all I would want is a ballpark diagnosis, and that's still a hell of a deal.

The patient should be the one asking specific questions, and once prescribed, it's up to the patient to ask for alternatives.

[SaLifHoq]

The patient is equally to blame no?

Everyone and their dog knows to try gargling salt water etc...it probably did not alleviate the problem. Antibiotics do work.

The guy charges $5, I doubt you're going to get an in depth consultation on holistic healing for that price.

Heck, for $5 all I would want is a ballpark diagnosis, and that's still a hell of a deal.

The patient should be the one asking specific questions, and once prescribed, it's up to the patient to ask for alternatives.

Apologist.

Sure, antibiotics work on bacterial infections (if prescribed properly), but did this dumb fuck even attempt a diagnosis?

If $5.00 is all you want to pay for a diagnosis, is that admitting that you are entirely clueless about what may be wrong with you? If so, best of luck to you.

[DaleJrGirl]

Apologist.

Sure, antibiotics work on bacterial infections (if prescribed properly), but did this dumb fuck even attempt a diagnosis?

If $5.00 is all you want to pay for a diagnosis, is that admitting that you are entirely clueless about what may be wrong with you? If so, best of luck to you.

My apologies, I wasn't aware you were there, and know everything about what went on during that consultation. Wtf...

Point being $5 is a bargain to talk to someone that is specialized in seeing a lot of sick people over a considerable amount of years. Not sure how you're missing that reality altogether....

[CibQueersejer]

OHL,

It's OK. We're good.
The forum is having some kind of glitch, thanks button doesn't seem to be working right now... your post deserves one.

Yes, Henny's throat problem is from when she was born, not acid related. As for me, the day the white coats get a shred of my time, money, or cooperation is going to be a very cold day in hell... I didn't go to them for a broken leg, I'm not about to go to them for cancer. I'm doing apricot kernals, and watching my diet.

Be well,
-Gaillo

ooh, although I am very sorry to read this, I am now glad to have posted this ayurvedic medicine video...

[Gofthooxdix]

The article says he sees patients 7 days a week.


250 x 7 = $1750/week

1750 x 4 = $7000/month

7000 x 50 = $350,000/year

350,000 x 35 = $12,250,000 over the last 35 years. (it says he adopted his $5 rate in the 1970s)


Maybe it doesn't take that much to run a small practice. It really shows you the depths to which we have been conditioned to expect medical services to be expensive.

Your math mistakenly assumes 250 patients per day, which is virtually impossible. As madfranks points out, 50 per day would be a high estimate. So your annual salary is off by a factor of 5. More likely his revenue is $50-$70K per year. Taking into account his overhead, that's not much at all.