That is what people say about Happy Slapping.

JM

Look at this a different way. I don't know what agreement Walmart has with Apple. It could be that any defective Ipod sent from Walmart to Apple results in a credit to Walmart for the price of the Ipod, that is in turn credited by Walmart Corporate back to the individual store's monthly P&L statement.

In that case, it doesn't matter where I bought the Ipod, because it isn't hurting Walmart financially.

Given that I know that is a reasonably likely outcome based on what I know about retail, and given that only store managers are going to know for sure what the plan is, then I have to assume that they are making smart businesses decisions. Who am I to question those decisions, when I don't know how their business is impacted?

What I did isn't fraud or theft, it's simply putting myself in a position to derive benefit from retailer-manufacturer relationships that the average consumer or even average retail employee does not know about.

How about that?

I don't see how it's a con. It's Walmart policy. I returned something to Walmart after Christmas that I got from a relative in Calgary. I had no receipt, no idea where it was bought, but I took it in and they gave me cash. I don't think that's a scam or a con.

Sorry, I ain't buying that.

David Floyd also cheered on some wacky loner who shot a police officer who came to serve him with a warrant.

Originally posted by Janaki
I found it funny.
Unethical but I say http://www.discussworldissues.com/im...ons/icon14.gif coz Walmart makes way too much money. I say we need to spread the wealth. Ah, I was wondering when we'd encounter this argument. It usually takes the more subtle form of "Wal-Mart refuses to allow its employees to unionize and pays them terribly, in addition to hurting small businesses and using sweatshop labor. Therefore, I am not stealing by sneaking this CD out of their store; I'm sticking it to those greedy corporate fat cats." Did DF auction off this iPod and give the proceeds to Hurricane Katrina victims or something? No, he gave it to his girl, and probably got a night of good sex out of it. Don't bother putting an altruistic patina on this, he's not Robin Hood.

DF: Polite, badgering, mox nix. You exchanged broken merchandise for an unbroken upgrade, taking advantage of a dumb manager to do it. You said the people in customer service essentially rolled their eyes when they heard who authorized it, and argued beforehand, which leads me to believe that what happened was not quite routine. Do you know for certain that they made an official record of the $50 you paid? I'm wondering if they extracted that extra bit to cover their butts when management hears what happened ("Chris said to do it, so we did it, but we had him pay for the upgrade all the same"), or if that fifty bucks went into someone's pocket at the end of the day, to buy the Customer Service people a couple of rounds at the local bar while they laughed and told their favorite "Hey, do you remember that time Chris...?" stories.

Originally posted by Kuciwalker


Property rights are their god. Well, Walmart obviously didn't care to defend those rights. http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...ilies/wink.gif

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
You lied to them in order to get them to give you merchandise. Sorry, you just commited fraud, not theft http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...s/rolleyes.gif Have to agree with you here.

Funny, but totally unethical from a libertarian POV.

Hahaha.. This was pretty funny http://www.discussworldissues.com/im...ons/icon14.gif. I cant understand why people are so worked up about this, just a case of survival of the fittest. Chris is a dumb@ss and therfore he lost. You got an iPod and everyone is happy.

I think people are just jealous cause they cant pull this stunt off http://www.discussworldissues.com/fo...ilies/wink.gif

Good on ya mate...

I don't think anybody here is particularly worked up. We're just calling it what it is.

-Arrian

Sometimes I get this feeling that Pekka practices "pouncing" in his tiny apartment all day. He crawls into a corner with camo paint on his face and a blackened knife between his teeth. Then, when his teddy bear on the sofa least suspects it, he strikes!

While I generally disapprove of fraud, I can't help but feel a little Schadenfreude.

Originally posted by Pekka
I prefer attacking unsuspecting homeless people. I'll remedy the homelesness situation as well as unemployment. You just pretend the teddy bear is a homeless person.