[trettegeani]

This junk again

Some people just can't leave it alone, Lance Armstrong has probably continuously busted his ass in the gym every second since he got off his hospital bed. I mean, he'd have to, to do this amazing thing without roids. Some people are just jealous I guess.

[Nmoitmzr]

I ran out of weed at the beginning of july

so no smoking for almost 2 months

next harvest in maybe 6 weeks

i see your argument is so weak you have to try to insult my life

evidence is thin? 6 confirmed tests prove he used EPO in 1999

But Jean-Marie Leblanc, the director of the Tour de France, called the paper's report "very complete, very professional, very meticulous." He said on RTL radio that the charge "appears credible." from the NYtimes article... referring to the French newspaper's report

and what is hypocritical about my condemnations?

how do I not know a thing about cycling? it's riding a bike...

oh wait, let me try the Boris arguing style: "You're just a dumb fag, what do you know?"

[erelvenewmeva]

The laboratory which did the testing did not link the samples to Armstrong. The samples were provided to them without any identification. L'Equipe - the newspaper with the story - says that they did a 4 month inquiry and were able to link the samples to the runner.

L'Equipe explique cependant avoir mené quatre mois d'enquête sur les 12 échantillons révélés positifs à l'EPO par ces analyses, et avoir pu déterminer ainsi que six d'entre eux appartenaient au coureur américain.

Détaillant sa méthode, le journal dit avoir comparé les numéros des échantillons urinaires prélevés sur l'Américain, consignés sur les procès-verbaux nominatifs des contrôles antidopage remplis par le médecin ayant effectué les prélèvements lors du Tour 1999, et les numéros des échantillons qualifiés de positifs à l'EPO par le laboratoire de Châtenay-Malabry. D'après le journal, six correspondent. L”Equipe explains that after a 4 month inquiry on the 12 samples that did test positive for EPO, they were able to determine that 6 of them belonged to the American.

Detailing its method, the newspaper said that they compared the numbers of the urine samples taken from the American, from the anti-doping control documents filled by the doctors responsible for sampling during the 1999 Tour, and the numbers of the samples that tested positive for EPO according to the Châtenay-Malabry laboratory. According to L’Equipe, six of these numbers are a match.

(translation is mine)

[anconueys]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
I love it! Sava is asking Boris to disprove COMMON KNOWLEDGE that Sava made! Priceless! fixed

[Biassasecumma]

I'm not surprised... Lance Armstrong is an *******... he's a cheating doper...

he's not an athlete

riding a bike is not a sport

it should be legal to run over people who ride bikes on streets

he's a bigger cheater than the east-german women olympic team

and he left his wife (who stood by him during cancer) for rock and roll hosebag sheryl crow

i'm not surprised morons like him

[Svatudjw]

Another take on why the testing was done in the first place

L'Équipe said they (the lab) had been refining their detection methods. One prominent antidoping expert, however, suggests the analysts were deliberately seeking to target Armstrong.

"Scientists have had their doubts about Armstrong for a long time," says Jean-Pierre de Mondenard, a sports doctor in Paris who once worked for the Tour, detecting riders' drug use. "They were fed up with being fooled. Armstrong's seven victories were a defeat for the battle against doping."

[Tndfpcin]

Ah jeez... I can never leave you kids alone in a thread.

[toponlinecasinoer]

Originally posted by Spiffor
That would be too similar to Virenque's defense to be taken seriously. well that defense has been the classic response from Major League Baseball players in America

from Barry Bonds to Palmiero to Lance Armstrong

all scumbags

[elton]

oh i'm sorry, the proof that you included to support your argument was just so overwhelming (including calling me a twit) that not only did I change my mind (a 180), but I kept going right back around again (a 360)...

so really, your uber-argument was TOO effective!

[Meenepek]

Originally posted by Sava
I ran out of weed at the beginning of july

so no smoking for almost 2 months

next harvest in maybe 6 weeks

i see your argument is so weak you have to try to insult my life Your defense is that you've run out?

And you've been insulting people's lives all along (unfounded accusations against Armstrong's personal life, insulting cyclists, etc.), so why shouldn't you get the same?

evidence is thin? 6 confirmed tests prove he used EPO in 1999 I already posted why this evidence was dubious in that post you conveniently ignored. On top of that:

http://in.today.reuters.com/news/new...a-213611-1.xml

A French specialist doping laboratory said on Tuesday it could not confirm that tests it had conducted for the blood-boosting drug EPO belonged to Lance Armstrong. Gee, they can't confirm the samples are even his--THIS is your wonderful evidence?

from the NYtimes article... referring to the French newspaper's report And Marchand is a doctor? A chemist? Oh, no, he's a race bureaucrat...

and what is hypocritical about my condemnations? Hmmm, could be your insulting people's chosen activities/hobbies while your own are hardly worthy of much respect. I'm willing to bet those fat cyclists are still more productive members of society. Hell, who wouldn't be?

how do I not know a thing about cycling? it's riding a bike... You just prove my point more. Ok, we'll get you on a road bike and see how you do. First, I'll try not to laugh every time you fall over. Then I'll try not to smoke you too badly when you're dying on a hill because you haven't a clue about gear shifting on it.

oh wait, let me try the Boris arguing style: "You're just a dumb fag, what do you know?"

Except I didn't engage in any such ad hominem. You were first insulting other people's life choices, so it was only proper to point out how you might want to remove the plank from your own eye first.

[yharmon6614]

Remember that german-spanish Muhlegg, winner of 2 gold medals at the Salt Lake Olympics before being caught at the anti-doping test was NEVER caught before the Olympics, so either it´s an amazing luck or someone knows how to avoid doping tests very well

[AlbrtJhnsqw]

You're Jan Ulrich aren't you?

[Cemeuncex]

Except I didn't engage in any such ad hominem. You were first insulting other people's life choices, so it was only proper to point out how you might want to remove the plank from your own eye first. the first post after my first post is yours... calling me a twit..

so go **** yourself

edit: better yet, go get aids and die