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I don't care until given a reason to.

This ^

On a side note if someone asks for advice, I will give them my honest opinion.

[Neitteloxesia]

Never said that all people who go on the internet for help get flamed, I just asked a question.

---------- Post added February 13th, 2011 at 06:37 PM ----------



Wouldnt expect anything else, I guess what I was trying to get at is how many of you would respond with something like:

"(Insert advice here)"
"(Insert flaming remark here)"
(Completely ignore the post)

Don't know where you got that conclusion from, because I was more directing that at:

While I realize a game fan forum is not exactly the best place to seek help, obviously people who are having said issues arent thinking straight to begin with anyway.

[PIORARMADDERI]

Don't know where you got that conclusion from, because I was more directing that at:

I must have misinterpreted what you said then, my bad.

As for the bulk of the replies on this thread, It seems like all about the same. For whatever reason, I find it a little surprising.

[SantaGanstag]

This has already happened to me before.
I have played World of Warcraft going on two years now, and I have developed many strong and lasting friendships (and a boyfriend) just by playing this game. A close friend of mine, from a guild I was once in, died from a heart attack last year and I can honestly say I was depressed about it. I tend to make friends easier online, just due to the fact that I am a shy person irl and don't approach people myself. My closest friends on there have my utmost respect and loyalty so much that I even consider them my family.
Now, in the case of you OP, I can say I probably wouldn't care too much if you died, no offense, just because I do not know you personally. I wouldn't flame any one posting about issue they have irl, I find it easier myself to seek advice from complete strangers with no involvement in the issue rather than friends or family who could tell others about it and start rumors or whatever.

[Vulkanevsel]

I would either legitimately help or not post. If I did help I might possibly add a little joke (not against them) with it.

[Thunderzee]

Define "help".

I will answer yugioh questions. I will answer computer hardware/software questions. I will "help" with GFX requests and other appropriately located internet-related concerns.

I will not give honest answers to questions about relationships, or people looking for attention, "My husband beats me, what do i do?", "My family hates me, what do I do?" "I want to kill myself, what do I do?" etc...

I have friends online, and we have cool chats, but their real-life circumstances are not part of our friendship. This is why people need to differentiate between IRL and Web-based relationships. They really are not the same, and while there may be some overlap in the benefits, they cannot offer the same things.



There are good places to seek help, and there are bad places to seek help.

A yu-gi-oh board is NOT a good place to seek help, and people who have legitimate concerns know this deep down inside.

[floadaVonfoli]

If somebody has a question, you answer it. Likewise, if somebody asks for advice, you give it.

Assuming whether somebody is trolling or not only makes you look like a jerk. Just take what people say on word value, and accept that if they're lying to you it's not a big deal.

[Buhoutsoupfap]

I would Help everyone here that i legitimately talk with often
if someone like Faust were to get hurt we would all care about him and ask if he's alright. many people did the same for me when i broke my leg in November. all and all the whole site is concerned about most peoples well beings especially the ones we know and like the most.

[bredkumanfirst]

This has already happened to me before.
I have played World of Warcraft going on two years now, and I have developed many strong and lasting friendships (and a boyfriend) just by playing this game. A close friend of mine, from a guild I was once in, died from a heart attack last year and I can honestly say I was depressed about it. I tend to make friends easier online, just due to the fact that I am a shy person irl and don't approach people myself. My closest friends on there have my utmost respect and loyalty so much that I even consider them my family.
Now, in the case of you OP, I can say I probably wouldn't care too much if you died, no offense, just because I do not know you personally. I wouldn't flame any one posting about issue they have irl, I find it easier myself to seek advice from complete strangers with no involvement in the issue rather than friends or family who could tell others about it and start rumors or whatever.

No offense taken. I wouldnt expect anything more.

---------- Post added February 20th, 2011 at 06:11 PM ----------

Define "help".

I will answer yugioh questions. I will answer computer hardware/software questions. I will "help" with GFX requests and other appropriately located internet-related concerns.

I will not give honest answers to questions about relationships, or people looking for attention, "My husband beats me, what do i do?", "My family hates me, what do I do?" "I want to kill myself, what do I do?" etc...

I have friends online, and we have cool chats, but their real-life circumstances are not part of our friendship. This is why people need to differentiate between IRL and Web-based relationships. They really are not the same, and while there may be some overlap in the benefits, they cannot offer the same things.



There are good places to seek help, and there are bad places to seek help.

A yu-gi-oh board is NOT a good place to seek help, and people who have legitimate concerns know this deep down inside.

While I do agree with the main point of this post, I kind of disagree in the specific sense.

Why not try to give them advice for real life issues? Its not like it requires anyone to know them IRL to give advice. Unless I misunderstand your post, I dont see the harm in trying to assist someone with advice.

[refsherne]

If the situation was serious enough, I'd help.

However, there are many people who NEED to be flamed / trolled.

There are positives in both helping and flaming.

Offer some advice, you might enlighten them with some wisdom.

Offer some flaming, you will help teach them that they need to learn to be independent and that there are some mean people in this world. Help them understand not everyone can be trusted. Hopefully by such a small dose of hurt such as being flamed on an internet forum will help get them into the mindset that can prevent them from being hurt in a more serious, in real life, situation.

It all depends on the situation, though. When you do flame or troll, do not completely rip the person apart.

To answer the question in the OP: I do care about some people online, but most of them either never were active on this site, or have already left long ago.

[OnerePeepsy]

I would Help everyone here that i legitimately talk with often
if someone like Faust were to get hurt we would all care about him and ask if he's alright. many people did the same for me when i broke my leg in November. all and all the whole site is concerned about most peoples well beings especially the ones we know and like the most.

Ok your obviously lying! >.>

If the situation was serious enough, I'd help.

However, there are many people who NEED to be flamed / trolled. (That's only your opinion!)

There are positives in both helping and flaming. (Is there humor in this somewhere?)

Offer some advice, you might enlighten them with some wisdom.

Offer some flaming, you will help teach them that they need to learn to be independent and that there are some mean people in this world. Help them understand not everyone can be trusted. Hopefully by such a small dose of hurt such as being flamed on an internet forum will help get them into the mindset that can prevent them from being hurt in a more serious, in real life, situation. (Or you come off as a blatant jerkoff wether your "trying to" or not! People are judged by their actions and how they treat others! Don't use flaming as a excuse to prove your better than anyone because it only proves your not! Not everyone needs to be treated poorly or made to feel like dirt under someones feet! E-bullying in the past has led to suicides! So just continue to be determents by doing so because you believe your doing something better for your "target"! Flaming is rewarded on this forum! Especially if you've been here longer than other members if I'm not mistaken!)

It all depends on the situation, though. When you do flame or troll, do not completely rip the person apart. (And not cross the imaginary line that for the most part a number of people on here have in the past? Where have you been?)

To answer the question in the OP: I do care about some people online, but most of them either never were active on this site, or have already left long ago.

Just remember I'm a witness to things on this forum just as well as anyone else! You want change on this forum grow the hell up and quit targeting other people! I have good reason to question peoples ethics, moralities, and characters on here! When your a witness to the worst humanity has to offer both online and in RL on a daily basis you become a good judge of character! Wanna prove me wrong? Change your damn attidutes for the better! Otherwise you'll just prove I have very little reason to have respect or believe in anything people have to say!

You may not like what I have said but you have to admit I brought up some good issues and that I'm speaking the truth!

[expiclefich]

[quote]Just remember I'm a witness to things on this forum just as well as anyone else! You want change on this forum grow the hell up and quit targeting other people! I have good reason to question peoples ethics, moralities, and characters on here! When your a witness to the worst humanity has to offer both online and in RL on a daily basis you become a good judge of character! Wanna prove me wrong? Change your damn attidutes for the better! Otherwise you'll just prove I have very little reason to have respect or believe in anything people have to say!

You may not like what I have said but you have to admit I brought up some good issues and that I'm speaking the truth!

[JennyStewarta]

Giving an ego boost isn't help. They can tell you "GET BETTER SOON KK?" but it won't change anything. No one is going to send you money to pay your bills, no one will visit you to help you out.

Words can only go so far over the internet. Getting help on the Internet is one of the worst things to do. If you seriously need help, go to someone IRL. If you have no friends, go to a professional. If I was dying of cancer, words over a forum aren't going to help.

[wbeachcomber]

Okay, I am going to just do this piece-by-piece.

(That's only your opinion!) --Your point? I now state it is only your opinion that you think people do not need to be flamed. Look at some of the topics people ask advice for on here. I guarantee you more people will agree with me on this than you.

(Is there humor in this somewhere?) --Were you raised sheltered with a silver spoon in your mouth? Have your parents or anyone else ever seriously taught you a lesson in humility? Judging by this, apparently you need a lesson in it. I have received my fair share of it, and I vouch it is one of the best things a person can learn, for it then leads to them hopefully becoming a little more humble. If you can't find the truth in my statement, then you have issues with your mindset.

(Or you come off as a blatant jerkoff wether your "trying to" or not! People are judged by their actions and how they treat others! Don't use flaming as a excuse to prove your better than anyone because it only proves your not! Not everyone needs to be treated poorly or made to feel like dirt under someones feet! E-bullying in the past has led to suicides! So just continue to be determents by doing so because you believe your doing something better for your "target"! Flaming is rewarded on this forum! Especially if you've been here longer than other members if I'm not mistaken!) -- You seriously only have a view of the extreme. It is you who cannot see the "imaginary line." Why? Because you can't minimalize anything. I could rant about this quote here for a long time, but I will try and keep it short. I am going to answer this one though by jumping to the next quote.

(And not cross the imaginary line that for the most part a number of people on here have in the past? Where have you been?) -- There is an easily drawn line. If someone comes on here and asks for advice on how to pack their sack lunch for school, obviously I am going to reply in a way such as, "Do you want me to live for you as well? Quit being retarded and just do things on your own." I guess I am contributing to another teenage suicide here, though. If someone comes on here venting about how a close relative died, then I will simply reply, "My condolences." There are lines. When someone acts retarded, I will let them know. I will not go out of my way to hurt someone's feelings, but the best way to stop someone from being stupid is to reveal those areas to them so they can then patch them up. I.E. RAiN...he was one of the most immature kids on the scene back in the day..everyone humiliated him (I befriended him because I felt bad about some of the stuff that was happening), but today he is doing well and will gladly say he owes it to all of the people who hated on him.

I didn't think I would need to elaborate on what I mean when I say "flame" or "troll." I do not mean go and make a fake Facebook account, get some girl to fall in "love" with you, and then out of no where crush her. You more than likely thought about it on that level, because like your friend Yami Bakura, you are closed minded.

Some people on here cross the line, but so does a lot of people everywhere. I am not speaking for them. OP asked how I would react, and I spoke for myself.

Do I care what people on here think of me if they see me show some hate to someone? No. I do not care what random member "Yugioh1143" who has 20 posts thinks of me. I do not care what administrator who has been here for years and has 30,000 posts thinks of me. The only people I remotely care (and I use this term VERY lightly) about what they think of me are the ones who actually take the time to get to know me.

If I call someone out on something, it isn't to prove I am better than them. I could care less about my social status on an internet forum or any form of comparing social status. If they're too sensitive, then leave. Easy as that. Drop the sensitivity off at the registration page, because as Pawn said, an online forum is seriously not the place to come to in order to get actual help.

And I don't care, I am going to take the infraction for it.
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[sharpyure]

[quote]Okay, I am going to just do this piece-by-piece.

--Your point? I now state it is only your opinion that you think people do not need to be flamed. Look at some of the topics people ask advice for on here. I guarantee you more people will agree with me on this than you.

--Were you raised sheltered with a silver spoon in your mouth? Have your parents or anyone else ever seriously taught you a lesson in humility? Judging by this, apparently you need a lesson in it. I have received my fair share of it, and I vouch it is one of the best things a person can learn, for it then leads to them hopefully becoming a little more humble. If you can't find the truth in my statement, then you have issues with your mindset.

-- You seriously only have a view of the extreme. It is you who cannot see the "imaginary line." Why? Because you can't minimalize anything. I could rant about this quote here for a long time, but I will try and keep it short. I am going to answer this one though by jumping to the next quote.

-- There is an easily drawn line. If someone comes on here and asks for advice on how to pack their sack lunch for school, obviously I am going to reply in a way such as, "Do you want me to live for you as well? Quit being retarded and just do things on your own." I guess I am contributing to another teenage suicide here, though. If someone comes on here venting about how a close relative died, then I will simply reply, "My condolences." There are lines. When someone acts retarded, I will let them know. I will not go out of my way to hurt someone's feelings, but the best way to stop someone from being stupid is to reveal those areas to them so they can then patch them up. I.E. RAiN...he was one of the most immature kids on the scene back in the day..everyone humiliated him (I befriended him because I felt bad about some of the stuff that was happening), but today he is doing well and will gladly say he owes it to all of the people who hated on him.

I didn't think I would need to elaborate on what I mean when I say "flame" or "troll." I do not mean go and make a fake Facebook account, get some girl to fall in "love" with you, and then out of no where crush her. You more than likely thought about it on that level, because like your friend Yami Bakura, you are closed minded.

Some people on here cross the line, but so does a lot of people everywhere. I am not speaking for them. OP asked how I would react, and I spoke for myself.

Do I care what people on here think of me if they see me show some hate to someone? No. I do not care what random member "Yugioh1143" who has 20 posts thinks of me. I do not care what administrator who has been here for years and has 30,000 posts thinks of me. The only people I remotely care (and I use this term VERY lightly) about what they think of me are the ones who actually take the time to get to know me.

If I call someone out on something, it isn't to prove I am better than them. I could care less about my social status on an internet forum or any form of comparing social status. If they're too sensitive, then leave. Easy as that. Drop the sensitivity off at the registration page, because as Pawn said, an online forum is seriously not the place to come to in order to get actual help.

And I don't care, I am going to take the infraction for it.
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[plaiskegizils]

Yami Bakura,
lol.
Keep on going with your biased, brainwashed by-the-media, closed mind. Don't worry. We will take care of you when you're unable to take care of yourself. I don't need 'brainwashing' when people like you totally prove my point and drive it home with every post they make.

*hands you a better shovel to dig a deeper hole for yourself*

[Cinzomzm]

I don't need 'brainwashing' when people like you totally prove my point and drive it home with every post they make.

*hands you a better shovel to dig a deeper hole for yourself*

Nah, pretty sure you are just a bitter old woman whose head is just a dump for the mainstream media. Your generation has just as many nuts and loons as mine does. You're right, though. I need to stop with the whole internet arguing and just follow by example from your time period. Yeah..I'll just go ahead and start trying to separate the races, hang some blacks, and when I get bored of it I will just grow my hair to my knees, take up the guitar, sit under a tree and smoke my body weight in marijuana each day. Ahh.....the life!
See? I can stereotype just as well as you can.

[medshop]

Nah, pretty sure you are just a bitter old woman whose head is just a dump for the mainstream media. Your generation has just as many nuts and loons as mine does. You're right, though. I need to stop with the whole internet arguing and just follow by example from your time period. Yeah..I'll just go ahead and start trying to separate the races, hang some blacks, and when I get bored of it I will just grow my hair to my knees, take up the guitar, sit under a tree and smoke my body weight in marijuana each day. Ahh.....the life!
See? I can stereotype just as well as you can.

Are you quite done living up to my 'stereotypical expectations' yet?

Oh yes, I can see...you haven't finished digging your hole...sorry for the interruption..

How 'bout some sturdier rope that doesn't break while you are trying to hang yourself there...?

Okay, so I am 'brainwashed by the media' (not that I ever pay any attention to it).
You, on the other hand, are brainwashed by your peer group. If I am ignorant, then so are you.

Oh noes...wot do?

*Realising of course, me being older means I have had more practice at being an arsehole than you*.

---------- Post added February 24th, 2011 at 11:44 PM ----------

Oh....by the way, you are right about one thing, I am a bitter, old lunatic.

I am wondering why you still bother to argue with me when it's obviously going to make no difference to either of us.

Yes, I have a closed mind and a very narrow viewpoint. I like it that way.

However, you shouldn't be casting any stones down on me from your glass tower up there...lest you shatter some of your own walls in the process thereof.

You are an egotistical bigot. No more or less.

[FreeDownloadOEMsoftware]

Well, it was a decent thread while it lasted. Closing this now since it's just people bickering with one another instead of posting anything meaningful. Sorry, Wulf.