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Old 05-07-2012, 10:20 AM   #1
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Default A possible positive development in the Republican Party.
I agree that Republicans have been very small tent recently.

But there is one area that democrats have been very small tent in, and that is abortion. Despite the fact that I bet a greater percent of democrats are pro-life than republicans are pro-chioce.

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Old 05-07-2012, 03:20 PM   #2
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At this point, the only true positive development would be the spontaneous decapitation of every member of the GOP.

This also applies to the Democrats.
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Old 05-07-2012, 03:42 PM   #3
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Oh, I was wrong, they are about the same.

Which way do independents normally fall again?

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Old 05-07-2012, 04:27 PM   #4
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Oh, I was wrong, they are about the same.
Technically, that's not proven here; you made a claim about the size of the abortion camps within the parties, while Ming provided data on the breakdown of the abortion camps by party. Depending on the size of the parties and the popularity of each opinion, that could dramatically skew the results. Don't get me wrong, I imagine the two are about equal--I'm just making a statistical quibble here. Because I can, I guess.

Also, I'm very glad to have a geriatric action-hero's views on our politics.
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Old 05-07-2012, 05:47 PM   #5
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I included in my response that there are more Democrats than Republicans...

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Old 05-07-2012, 05:59 PM   #6
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Is that something you see a lot in the medical literature?
Sadly, no.
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Old 05-07-2012, 08:09 PM   #7
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Republicans love the free market, so it should seem like a no-brainer that the more views we have at the table, the better our final product will be.
Nice point.
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Old 05-07-2012, 09:44 PM   #8
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PAY UP

http://www.gallup.com/poll/147734/am...ife-lines.aspx

GALLOP -

PRO CHOICE
REP - 28%
DEM - 68%
IND - 51%

PRO LIFE
REP - 67%
DEM - 27%
IND - - 41%

MAY - 2011
That doesn't actually counter Jon Miller. He said a greater percentage of Democrats are pro-life than Republicans are pro-choice... you showed that the percentage of pro-choice people who are Republicans is slightly more than the percentage of pro-life people who are Democrats. But that's not the same thing.
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Old 05-08-2012, 12:03 AM   #9
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Wrong again? Blanche Lincoln and Joe Lieberman say high.
Jesus, you are a **** aren't you. I said it sometimes happens but there are still many blue dogs out there so how does your garbage link prove that wrong? It doesn't and you know it. They're not going extinct no matter what a right wing media outlet like Politico claims. Compare that to how EVERY liberal Republican is gone and almost all moderate Republicans are gone. The Dems simply have a much larger party tent than the Republicans.

Besides your own link attributed the decline to redistricting in red states and voters in red states going Republican instead of the Dems pushing them out of the party. Talk about confusing cause and effect. Hell, you're far more consistently wrong in your posts than I will ever be. Read your own source.
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Old 05-08-2012, 12:14 AM   #10
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There numbers went down by 26 from 2008 to 2010 but that is, as DD's source even said, because Republicans redistricted a lot of their districts so that Republicans could take them. His claim was that, like Republicans, Dems were forcing out members which is completely false as even his own source agrees.

The problem the blue dogs had in 2010 is that red states went way redder so as blues in red states they took the brunt of the loses. It has nothing to do with Dems forcing out blue dogs (2 lost primaries this year but last cycle 26 lost to Republicans) so, no, DD is completely wrong to claim Dems are forcing out ideological minorities the way the Republicans force out anyone not an extreme rightist.
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Old 05-08-2012, 12:33 AM   #11
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Yep... I thought the poll I provided a link to, and then summarized was exactly addressing the point JM made.
I was actually surprised to see how close it was, because I assumed like JM that his guess was on target.
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Old 05-08-2012, 02:02 AM   #12
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I'm not illiterate, TYVM. Just lazy and hasty.
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Old 05-08-2012, 05:08 AM   #13
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I'm not illiterate, TYVM. Just lazy and hasty.
I believe you because you don't have a record. Sorry to lump you in with Al.
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