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Old 07-07-2006, 06:41 AM   #1
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Default So have you ever participated in, or personally witnessed election fraud?
I have taken part in plenty elections as one of the admins of the polling booth.

The only election fraud I witnessed was when some candidate went to the nearby retirement home to lobby the old people to go voting.
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Old 07-07-2006, 06:46 AM   #2
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I've seen ballot boxes being stuffed in Egypt.

I worked on Pres. Ford's re-election campaign (among others) and haven't seen a single irregularity in any US election.
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Old 07-07-2006, 07:10 AM   #3
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Originally posted by DanS
This is funny. You could do two things: (1) inform the campaigns anonymously that they ought to look at the signatures collected very closely; or (2) inform the opposing campaigns that they ought to challenge the signatures.

People have been thrown off the ballot for this stuff. F.e., in 2002, our dear mayor Williams had to run as a write-in candidate in the Dem primary. The only thing that saved him was that he ran unopposed. From Wikipedia, in pertinent part...



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_A._Williams I am from New York and our town is unbelivably democratic... I don't think a Republican has ever won an election here in my life time, for any position. We have a decent # of independants from time to time though.

No real reason to report the fraud.
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Old 07-07-2006, 07:35 AM   #4
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Originally posted by DanS
This is funny. You could do two things: (1) inform the campaigns anonymously that they ought to look at the signatures collected very closely; or (2) inform the opposing campaigns that they ought to challenge the signatures. Sounds like the best thing to do

No need to indirectly support such a fraud
by keeping silent about it.
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Old 07-07-2006, 12:23 PM   #5
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I had an opportunity to cast two votes in the last presidential election 2001. I was in the army and could have voted with my army documents and with my civilian documents (I was supposed to only have my army papers, but I had both)

I did not take advantage and only voted once. The guy I voted for lost but my extra vote wouldn't have tipped the scales in his favour.
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Old 07-07-2006, 12:42 PM   #6
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I did. But it wasn't fraud, since I was a legal candidate.
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Old 07-07-2006, 02:16 PM   #7
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Originally posted by Ecthy
Does voting for yourself count as fraud?

Honestly, I'd have thought this the normal thing to do, but I realize many people don't do it because they think it immoral. Where those other people (who think it's immoral) on pot at the time?
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Old 07-07-2006, 03:23 PM   #8
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Originally posted by Ecthy
Does voting for yourself count as fraud?

Honestly, I'd have thought this the normal thing to do, but I realize many people don't do it because they think it immoral. As to those who think it immoral to vote for themselves: I'd be curious to know who they'd vote for . . . their opponents, maybe?
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Old 07-07-2006, 04:00 PM   #9
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Originally posted by Jaguar
I knew a guy who voted for his opponent in a small election for a student organization, and then lost to her by one vote. Was it this guy:

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Old 07-07-2006, 04:14 PM   #10
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Originally posted by Vesayen
I am from New York and our town is unbelivably democratic... I don't think a Republican has ever won an election here in my life time, for any position. We have a decent # of independants from time to time though.

No real reason to report the fraud. And you complain about the apathy of this country's citizens?
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Old 07-07-2006, 04:31 PM   #11
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Not very juicy stuff folks. Hasn't anybody seen a person turned away who had a right to vote, or seen more votes come in in a ballot box than there were voters in a small town? Or how about having a "special patrol" go to people who had not voted and get them to fill out a backdated absentee ballot to swing the election the other way? These things do happen.
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Old 07-07-2006, 04:58 PM   #12
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lets see, i was once a poll watcher for a campaign in NY (IE not an election board administrator, but someone who represented a campaign when the votes were counted to make sure no hanky panky). I was just 17 at the time and poll watchers were supposed to be at least 18, but nobody shooed me away. Is that fraud?

I ran for a VERY minor position (party county committee) against the local party machine, and they came to my house (i lived with my parents at the time) with a subpoena relating to a challenge to our petitions (our petitions were fine, this was routine intimidation) The lawyer for the reform club i was affiliated with said to ignore it, it would be dismissed, and it was.
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Old 07-07-2006, 07:16 PM   #13
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[q=LOTM]its routine for campaign workers to stand at the edge of the forbidden zone, handing out liter and talking to voters.[/q]

I assume you meant 'literature', but its a nice Freudian slip .
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Old 07-07-2006, 07:59 PM   #14
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For the last two federal elections i have received an extra elector card at my place, in the name of a woman who used to live here years ago. Considering the amount of checking being done at the voting station i'm fairly confident that i could have handed that card to any woman i know and she could have used it.

But i didn't.
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Old 07-07-2006, 08:18 PM   #15
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Originally posted by Vesayen


I am from New York and our town is unbelivably democratic... I don't think a Republican has ever won an election here in my life time, for any position. You mean like Giuliani or Bloomberg?
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Old 07-07-2006, 09:52 PM   #16
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In Chicago... it would be harder to find a person who hasn't participated in, or personally witnessed election fraud than one that has

Remember... Vote Early, and Vote Often!
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Old 07-07-2006, 09:54 PM   #17
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It snows in the Philippines?!?
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Old 07-08-2006, 12:35 AM   #18
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Originally posted by Vesayen
So I have now thwarted election fraud and witnessed it.

No you haven't. Both the local officals and the representitives of the local GOP will make sure (the latter damned sure) that no duplicate signatures are allowed. It does not void the entire petition.

And besides, why should he take your word for it? Maybe you're a GOP jerk (but I'm repeating myself), trying to scare him off getting signatures.

While I have not knowingly witnessed election fraud, a friend of mine was canvassing for a Democrat who was not part of Mayor Daley's machine. While he was walking his rounds, he got jumped and beaten by a group of people who told him this is what happens when you go against the machine.
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Old 07-08-2006, 03:42 AM   #19
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If you lived in Riverside, you did.
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Old 07-08-2006, 05:51 AM   #20
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Originally posted by chegitz guevara
Originally posted by Vesayen
So I have now thwarted election fraud and witnessed it.

No you haven't. Both the local officals and the representitives of the local GOP will make sure (the latter damned sure) that no duplicate signatures are allowed. It does not void the entire petition.

And besides, why should he take your word for it? Maybe you're a GOP jerk (but I'm repeating myself), trying to scare him off getting signatures.

While I have not knowingly witnessed election fraud, a friend of mine was canvassing for a Democrat who was not part of Mayor Daley's machine. While he was walking his rounds, he got jumped and beaten by a group of people who told him this is what happens when you go against the machine. Che, I think your bias is getting mean.
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