[Mello]

The Paedophilea hysteria has been around for almost a decade now, it unfortunately shows no signs of weakening.

[ThzinChang]

Why would 'God' be required to have 'mercy'?

On second thoughts - no, let's not go there.

[6ZCo3xuK]

here is one more "fun" snippet from this year
http://www.arcamax.com/uknews/s-395957-264377
YORK, England (UPI) -- A British man who pleaded guilty to helping organize an Internet child abuse ring could be free within four years, a judge ruled Monday.

While Teesside Crown Court Judge Michael Taylor found that Philip Thompson, 27, was a public risk, he gave him an indeterminate prison sentence with a minimum of three years and nine months, The Times of London reported.

"You have shown that you are a very dangerous individual indeed. I consider that you pose a very significant risk to the public and you are a dangerous offender," Taylor told Thompson.
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The Times said under the current sentence, Thompson could become eligible for parole if he can prove he is no longer a threat to the general public.

if those guys are getting this much, you know that your "average" pedo is out in no time here... and proving "that he is no longer a threat"... check this out

it is the "Sun" but it is just an example of newspaper traced real case from this year

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...cle1341754.ece


FREED sex beast Lee Porritt has admitted women will be “horrified” he is among them – and said: “They are potentially RIGHT to worry.”

The psychopathic rapist – released from a new Broadmoor unit housing some of Britain’s sickest fiends – openly confessed he is still a danger to girls.
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Dr Taylor’s report – made for the tribunal – said Porritt was deceitful and had shown no remorse, a reckless disregard for others, intense anger, sexual sadism and fantasy-fuelled urges.

She concluded: “These disorders are severe and long-standing and have damaged Mr Porritt’s capacity to form and maintain relationships, to cope with difficult emotions.

“More importantly, they have led to him presenting a grave risk to women. It is my recommendation this detention should continue in light of his disorder.”

Dr Taylor cited a letter written by Porritt in 2000 in which he said he could not control his urges.

He wrote: “The girls I fantasise about are 11 or 12 years old. I abduct them and carry them to a secluded spot, ie a wood, where I rape them.

“After this, I torture them and bury them in the wood and try to forget about it. I have actually been planning these things.”

[arerrurrY]

not European just British, or perhaps even more specifically English...

[911_993_911]

Thanks for the links, Footsie.

One point I would question though, is the assumptions that victims are likely to become perpetrators. It's bad enough for someone to have been abused as a child without them being accused without evidence of being a nonce themselves.

[neeclindy]

[Barbshowers]

Paedophile is a big problem... the issue is that the current focus generally doesn't catch the prime offenders.

JM

[Sxscdergh]

Rule of Law

Stupid Mob

[Payodcapy542fro]

Originally posted by Jaguar

- Pedophilia is just one of the many things that the school/camp/childcare industry is deathly afraid of. They've become supervigilant about everything from peanut allergies to school shootings to bullying.

- There's a huge double standard when it comes to gender and pedophilia. The obvious examples are those female teacher/male student relationships, where people would flip out much more if the genders were reversed. Another example: think about what you'd consider appropriate for a female teacher of very young children. (Can they change diapers for children of both genders? Can they let kids sit in their laps? Can they give children hugs?) Now think about the same, with a male teacher. Society seems to deem it less appropriate for a man to care for children, or to have affectionate relationships with children he's not related to.

- In many respects it's not so different from other weird fetishes. Basically, it seems like fetishes are the brain confusing sexual feelings with other feelings. (For example, people who are aroused by pain.) Is it really so surprising that people would confuse the natural instinct to be affectionate towards children with sexual feelings? In a way, it makes a hell of a lot more sense than most fetishes. I'm not sure whether an attraction to children is more "sick" than those, by itself. It's acting on that attraction that's terrible.

- Many pedophiles, I think, don't want to see themselves as "bad people." Many of them aren't violent, like rapists are. They probably genuinely don't want to hurt people. They just have a strong instinct that can't be fulfilled without doing something that's morally wrong. It's really an awful position to be in.

- Basically, the amount of hatred directed towards them is kind of frightening. I think people like to have a despised group at the bottom of the pecking order, and pedophiles kind of are it. And nobody can really discuss the issue substantively, because the only socially appropriate response is to basically declare these people to be evil incarnate. Maybe if people weren't this vitriolic, it would be possible for pedophiles to get the right kind of help and learn to control themselves. I'm not sure that society's hatred for these people helps things.
You are right on many counts.

Being reasonable
Protecting kids from abuse
Double Standards
Saying that Pedophiles deserve everything we can do to them

[NicolasOL]

Originally posted by Heresson
I think it's common in Poland. I'd rather be taken for a serial, extremly cruel, killer than a paedophile. People usually express their happiness at that they will be tortured by other inmates at prison, which clearly shows the attitude. But it's a disease. It can lead to great harm for the children, but I believe the society is playing dumb and irresponsible. If You harm a paedophile after he molested a child, You can only "avenge" it, the harm is already done. Profilactic (?) would be better - It would be the best if people surmising they have such inclinations could get help restricting them, to avoid commiting crimes. But it will not happen, because, I think, there's no plan for that, and admitting any such inclinations would mean social death, even if such person never hurted anyone. well they are well hated for a good reason, and off course on the other hand there is no point in hurting them once they have done what they did...

In my opinion they would need a revised prison system where they could be productive (as typically they can be fairly functional otherwise), but still outside of the society with some sort of medical/psychiatric supervison in that environment... + much better tracking/help when they are released back into the society... and longer sentences no doubt... but the prison system is totally screwed as it is over here so an initiative like this is perhaps something for 22nd century...

For people with only such inclinations, well there is always private therapy perhaps ?even now? which could work to help them keep it under control... but other than that I don't know what could help them short of creation of an isolated community supported by the government where they could go if they find there is no stopping themselves offending, which is like self-jail, not sure how many takers would be for that...

[gennickO]

Originally posted by Jaguar

With those experiences in mind, here are some of my thoughts.

- Pedophilia is just one of the many things that the school/camp/childcare industry is deathly afraid of. They've become supervigilant about everything from peanut allergies to school shootings to bullying.

- There's a huge double standard when it comes to gender and pedophilia. The obvious examples are those female teacher/male student relationships, where people would flip out much more if the genders were reversed. Another example: think about what you'd consider appropriate for a female teacher of very young children. (Can they change diapers for children of both genders? Can they let kids sit in their laps? Can they give children hugs?) Now think about the same, with a male teacher. Society seems to deem it less appropriate for a man to care for children, or to have affectionate relationships with children he's not related to.

- In many respects it's not so different from other weird fetishes. Basically, it seems like fetishes are the brain confusing sexual feelings with other feelings. (For example, people who are aroused by pain.) Is it really so surprising that people would confuse the natural instinct to be affectionate towards children with sexual feelings? In a way, it makes a hell of a lot more sense than most fetishes. I'm not sure whether an attraction to children is more "sick" than those, by itself. It's acting on that attraction that's terrible.

- Many pedophiles, I think, don't want to see themselves as "bad people." Many of them aren't violent, like rapists are. They probably genuinely don't want to hurt people. They just have a strong instinct that can't be fulfilled without doing something that's morally wrong. It's really an awful position to be in.

- Basically, the amount of hatred directed towards them is kind of frightening. I think people like to have a despised group at the bottom of the pecking order, and pedophiles kind of are it. And nobody can really discuss the issue substantively, because the only socially appropriate response is to basically declare these people to be evil incarnate. Maybe if people weren't this vitriolic, it would be possible for pedophiles to get the right kind of help and learn to control themselves. I'm not sure that society's hatred for these people helps things.

with the comment that the industry better be aware of it, as after all those type of people go there where they can find satisfaction, so such industries are typically the target...

Gender has a role but in this specific case women given their "instincts" and natural role are rightly less afraid of, but still they need the same "checks" as everyone else... it is just the way nature is, and it is "easier" for men to become deviant in this aspect. Off course men should not be viewed as potential pedos first, but it just goes together with every other racism, sexism and other isms, and the very fact that we people like to categorize followed by the double standards that arise from it...