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**jdynwa** · 07-05-2012, 08:50 PM

The man who should have been King: Australian forklift driver that historians said was true heir to British throne dies aged 71

Mike Hastings, 71, was real-life aristocrat, born the 14th Earl of Loudoun
Research suggests his ancestors cheated out of British crown in C15th

By Daily Mail Reporter
PUBLISHED: 10:45 GMT, 5 July 2012 | UPDATED: 20:29 GMT, 5 July 2012

An Australian forklift driver who some historians argued was the true heir to the British throne has died in the small New South Wales town he called home.
Mike Hastings, 71, was a real-life aristocrat, born the 14th earl of Loudoun, who moved to Australia in 1960 in search of adventure.
He made international headlines in 2004 when a Channel Four documentary team conducted extensive research into the monarchy and concluded his ancestors were cheated out of the crown in the 15th century.
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The man who would be King: British-born forklift driver Mike Hastings has died aged 71

Day job: Mike Hastings moved to Australia aged 18, and some believe he had a legitimate claim to the throne

Long lost family: Mike Hastings poses in front of a portrait of a relative in his home town of Jerilderie

Hastings, an avowed republican, died on June 30 and was buried today in Jerilderie, about 465 miles southwest of Sydney, the local Wagga Wagga Daily Advertiser reported.
He was a descendant of England's House of York, whose dynastic struggle with the House of Lancaster became known as the Wars of the Roses and was dramatised by William Shakespeare.

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The British documentary found documents in France's Rouen Cathedral he believed showed King Edward IV, who ruled with a brief interruption from 1461 to 1483, was illegitimate.
Historian Michael Jones believes that Edward's father Richard of York was fighting the French at Pontoise when he was conceived.

Ironic: A run-down caravan, bearing the name 'Windsor' lies in his yard

What could have been... If life had turned out differently Mr Hastings could have ruled the roost at Buckingham Palace

...what reality dished out: Mr Hastings lived in a much less palatial setting

Tiny: Jerilderie is some 464 miles from Sydney

His mother Cecily was 125 miles away at Rouen, allegedly in the amorous arms of an English archer.
If true, the crown should have passed on to Edward's younger brother George, the duke of Clarence, who was a direct ancestor to Hastings.
Hastings showed little interest in pursuing his claim to the monarchy when interviewed by AFP in 2005, citing the intense public scrutiny endured by the royals.
However, he joked that his claim to the crown could prove lucrative if confirmed.
WHO WOULD HAVE RULED IF IT WAS FOUND EDWARD IV WAS ILLEGITIMATE?

Edward III of England
Lionel of Antwerp, 1st Duke of Clarence, third son (second son to survive infancy) of Edward III
Philippa Plantagenet, 5th Countess of Ulster, only child of Lionel
Roger Mortimer, 4th Earl of March, first son of Philippa
Anne de Mortimer, first daughter, third line of Roger
Richard Plantagenet, 3rd Duke of York, only son of Anne
George Plantagenet, 1st Duke of Clarence, third son (second 'legitimate' son) of Richard
Margaret Pole, 8th Countess of Salisbury, second daughter, fourth line of George
Henry Pole, 1st Baron Montagu, first son of Margaret
Catherine Hastings, first daughter, second line of Henry
George Hastings, 4th Earl of Huntingdon, second son of Catherine
Francis Hastings, first son of George
Henry Hastings, 5th Earl of Huntingdon, only son of Francis
Ferdinando Hastings, 6th Earl of Huntingdon, oldest son of Henry
Theophilus Hastings, 7th Earl of Huntingdon, only son of Ferdinando
George Hastings, 8th Earl of Huntingdon, first son of Theophilus
Theophilus Hastings, 9th Earl of Huntingdon, second son of Theophilus
Elizabeth Rawdon, 16th Baroness Botreaux, only daughter, second line of Theophilus, 9th Earl
Francis Rawdon-Hastings, 1st Marquess of Hastings, first son of Elizabeth
George Rawdon-Hastings, 2nd Marquess of Hastings, eldest legitimate son of Francis
Edith Rawdon-Hastings, 10th Countess of Loudoun, first daughter, third line of George
Paulyn Francis Cuthbert Rawdon-Hastings, second son of Edith
Edith Maud Abney-Hastings, 12th Countess of Loudoun, first daughter, third line of Paulyn
Barbara Abney-Hastings, 13th Countess of Loudoun, first daughter, second line of Edith
Michael Abney-Hastings, 14th Earl of Loudoun, eldest son of Barbara
Simon Abney-Hastings, 15th Earl of Loudoun, elder son of Michael

The REAL Royal family? Mike Hastings and his nearest and dearest, who could all lay claim to the British throne

Claims: King Edward I (left) is said to have been illegitimate, which would have altered the Royal Family tree and made Mike Hastings (right) heir to the throne

Line-up: The current British Royal Family on display during the Queen's Diamond Jubilee celebrations last month

He said: 'I reckon I might send Lizzie (Queen Elizabeth II) a bill for back rent. The old girl's family have been living in my bloody castle for the last 500 years.'
His son Simon, who now becomes the 15th earl of Loudoun, also appears in no hurry to try to seize the throne.
'It's something that I'll have to look into in the near future,' he told the Advertiser ahead of his father's funeral.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz1zmdLQTBc

**PrareeLor** · 07-05-2012, 11:36 PM

well that is very bad news indeed. While he was alive, the current Queen could not have a male heir, because Mister Hastings made his claim as King of Wales. With that in place the Queen cannot have a male heir because they could not be king.

This meant that the Queen would have a female heir AND she had none because all of them are Catholic and that means they cannot be the sovereign due to this issue.

There was a story earlier this year, that the Commonwealth is going to have to change their constitutions to enable a catholic to inherit the throne.

This may not be necessary now. I am not sure. I think he had 2 daughters so neither of them could become the next sovereign as the female side is held by the current queen. I do not know if he has any grandsons.

To me, this Catholic issue was a fantastic opportunity to actually shut down this usurper family. If just one nation in the commonwealth failed to change their constitution these people would not have an avenue to continue their line of sovereigns and we would be free of them.

I'll have to dig around a bit and see what can be done now.

God bless the King.

**Faumpiggueria** · 07-05-2012, 11:53 PM

they probably screwed him out of it because he didn't "wish to be returned to Earth as a killer virus to lower human population levels."

07-05-2012, 08:50 PM	#1
jdynwa Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 362 Senior Member	The man who should have been King: Australian forklift driver The man who should have been King: Australian forklift driver that historians said was true heir to British throne dies aged 71 Mike Hastings, 71, was real-life aristocrat, born the 14th Earl of Loudoun Research suggests his ancestors cheated out of British crown in C15th By Daily Mail Reporter PUBLISHED: 10:45 GMT, 5 July 2012 \| UPDATED: 20:29 GMT, 5 July 2012 An Australian forklift driver who some historians argued was the true heir to the British throne has died in the small New South Wales town he called home. Mike Hastings, 71, was a real-life aristocrat, born the 14th earl of Loudoun, who moved to Australia in 1960 in search of adventure. He made international headlines in 2004 when a Channel Four documentary team conducted extensive research into the monarchy and concluded his ancestors were cheated out of the crown in the 15th century. Scroll down to see video... The man who would be King: British-born forklift driver Mike Hastings has died aged 71 Day job: Mike Hastings moved to Australia aged 18, and some believe he had a legitimate claim to the throne Long lost family: Mike Hastings poses in front of a portrait of a relative in his home town of Jerilderie Hastings, an avowed republican, died on June 30 and was buried today in Jerilderie, about 465 miles southwest of Sydney, the local Wagga Wagga Daily Advertiser reported. He was a descendant of England's House of York, whose dynastic struggle with the House of Lancaster became known as the Wars of the Roses and was dramatised by William Shakespeare. More... There's no need to kiss this frog… he's already a prince! (Well his whole species have been named after Prince Charles) The British documentary found documents in France's Rouen Cathedral he believed showed King Edward IV, who ruled with a brief interruption from 1461 to 1483, was illegitimate. Historian Michael Jones believes that Edward's father Richard of York was fighting the French at Pontoise when he was conceived. Ironic: A run-down caravan, bearing the name 'Windsor' lies in his yard What could have been... If life had turned out differently Mr Hastings could have ruled the roost at Buckingham Palace ...what reality dished out: Mr Hastings lived in a much less palatial setting Tiny: Jerilderie is some 464 miles from Sydney His mother Cecily was 125 miles away at Rouen, allegedly in the amorous arms of an English archer. If true, the crown should have passed on to Edward's younger brother George, the duke of Clarence, who was a direct ancestor to Hastings. Hastings showed little interest in pursuing his claim to the monarchy when interviewed by AFP in 2005, citing the intense public scrutiny endured by the royals. However, he joked that his claim to the crown could prove lucrative if confirmed. WHO WOULD HAVE RULED IF IT WAS FOUND EDWARD IV WAS ILLEGITIMATE? Edward III of England Lionel of Antwerp, 1st Duke of Clarence, third son (second son to survive infancy) of Edward III Philippa Plantagenet, 5th Countess of Ulster, only child of Lionel Roger Mortimer, 4th Earl of March, first son of Philippa Anne de Mortimer, first daughter, third line of Roger Richard Plantagenet, 3rd Duke of York, only son of Anne George Plantagenet, 1st Duke of Clarence, third son (second 'legitimate' son) of Richard Margaret Pole, 8th Countess of Salisbury, second daughter, fourth line of George Henry Pole, 1st Baron Montagu, first son of Margaret Catherine Hastings, first daughter, second line of Henry George Hastings, 4th Earl of Huntingdon, second son of Catherine Francis Hastings, first son of George Henry Hastings, 5th Earl of Huntingdon, only son of Francis Ferdinando Hastings, 6th Earl of Huntingdon, oldest son of Henry Theophilus Hastings, 7th Earl of Huntingdon, only son of Ferdinando George Hastings, 8th Earl of Huntingdon, first son of Theophilus Theophilus Hastings, 9th Earl of Huntingdon, second son of Theophilus Elizabeth Rawdon, 16th Baroness Botreaux, only daughter, second line of Theophilus, 9th Earl Francis Rawdon-Hastings, 1st Marquess of Hastings, first son of Elizabeth George Rawdon-Hastings, 2nd Marquess of Hastings, eldest legitimate son of Francis Edith Rawdon-Hastings, 10th Countess of Loudoun, first daughter, third line of George Paulyn Francis Cuthbert Rawdon-Hastings, second son of Edith Edith Maud Abney-Hastings, 12th Countess of Loudoun, first daughter, third line of Paulyn Barbara Abney-Hastings, 13th Countess of Loudoun, first daughter, second line of Edith Michael Abney-Hastings, 14th Earl of Loudoun, eldest son of Barbara Simon Abney-Hastings, 15th Earl of Loudoun, elder son of Michael The REAL Royal family? Mike Hastings and his nearest and dearest, who could all lay claim to the British throne Claims: King Edward I (left) is said to have been illegitimate, which would have altered the Royal Family tree and made Mike Hastings (right) heir to the throne Line-up: The current British Royal Family on display during the Queen's Diamond Jubilee celebrations last month He said: 'I reckon I might send Lizzie (Queen Elizabeth II) a bill for back rent. The old girl's family have been living in my bloody castle for the last 500 years.' His son Simon, who now becomes the 15th earl of Loudoun, also appears in no hurry to try to seize the throne. 'It's something that I'll have to look into in the near future,' he told the Advertiser ahead of his father's funeral. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz1zmdLQTBc Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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PrareeLor Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 400 Senior Member	well that is very bad news indeed. While he was alive, the current Queen could not have a male heir, because Mister Hastings made his claim as King of Wales. With that in place the Queen cannot have a male heir because they could not be king. This meant that the Queen would have a female heir AND she had none because all of them are Catholic and that means they cannot be the sovereign due to this issue. There was a story earlier this year, that the Commonwealth is going to have to change their constitutions to enable a catholic to inherit the throne. This may not be necessary now. I am not sure. I think he had 2 daughters so neither of them could become the next sovereign as the female side is held by the current queen. I do not know if he has any grandsons. To me, this Catholic issue was a fantastic opportunity to actually shut down this usurper family. If just one nation in the commonwealth failed to change their constitution these people would not have an avenue to continue their line of sovereigns and we would be free of them. I'll have to dig around a bit and see what can be done now. God bless the King. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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Faumpiggueria Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 324 Senior Member	they probably screwed him out of it because he didn't "wish to be returned to Earth as a killer virus to lower human population levels." Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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