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Old 05-28-2012, 10:40 PM   #1
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Default Musician's POV on intellectual "property"
I will read anything by the writer of "Take the Skinheads Bowling"

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Old 05-29-2012, 06:50 AM   #2
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It's a shame he didn't address Spotify in that because I think that is the next phase of the "new model".

(I am a subscriber)
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Old 05-29-2012, 03:05 PM   #3
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What about using kickstarter to get recording money if you are an independent artist?

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Old 05-29-2012, 03:26 PM   #4
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I can understand how the old system was better for some people.

But it doesn't mean the old system was better for society or for artists in general (which are not only professional artists who make a good living on art) or whatever.

I would argue that having the government support art in some fashion would also be acceptable.

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Old 05-29-2012, 04:10 PM   #5
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But Spotify being pro major record label does mean that the record labels will still exist and want to do things like acquire artists/promote/etc.

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Old 05-29-2012, 04:26 PM   #6
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Spotify royalties are higher than radio royalties.

http://www.billboard.biz/bbbiz/indus...05742352.story

Artists also don't own equity in commercial radio stations.

Focussing on who owns Spotify is as irrelevant as who owns the record labels I think. Totally doesn't matter as long as the artist is earning a reasonable amount.


A counter argument:

http://www.spotidj.com/spotifyroyalties.htm


I listen to stuff on Spotify where I already own the CD thus earning the artist further royalties for something I've already paid for because it's so convenient.
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Old 05-29-2012, 04:28 PM   #7
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I will read anything by the writer of "Take the Skinheads Bowling"

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Old 05-29-2012, 05:24 PM   #8
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Also the original guy is dismissive of new income streams, and of the possibility of operating truly independently. There are things like this:

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/...-book-and-tour

Ok there is an element that you have to be famous to make money that way, but you can become a cult Youtube star, create your own content, get fans to fund it directly and use that capital to release it. At that point you are 100% owner of your work and you are operating with a tiny budget compared to a major label release so you need less income to recoup your costs. The downside is that the risk is yours, not that of a record company. You are actually an entrepreneur.

There is definitely less money going into music industry overall and there is definitely more competition for what money there is. There are ways to make a living as a professional musician, but it's very hard to get rich doing it. And it's going to be incredibly hard work.
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Old 05-29-2012, 08:06 PM   #9
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I think one of his suggestions is that Apple should just take less of a cut from iTunes sales.
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Old 05-30-2012, 02:54 AM   #10
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I knew I could count on you to know it.

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Old 05-30-2012, 07:09 AM   #11
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In Utah, we had a station that played CVB a lot. Those were the days.



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Old 05-30-2012, 10:55 AM   #12
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Here's where I stand:

1. Whether it is right or wrong digital piracy is the reality of the modern world.
2. I have yet to see a 'solution' to digital piracy which really addresses the problem, and which doesn't end up penalising the people who are actually paying for content.
3. Instant access, on demand services is what people want. Listening to something on spotify or firing it up on Netflix is vastly quicker and easier than torrenting something, and a lot of people are prepared for such services.
4. Those that aren't prepared to pay for digital content, won't start paying for it if it is not available for free.
5. The opportunities to connect directly with a global market via the internet is something that we are only just starting to see bands explore.
6. Making money out of being in a band is 10% making good music, 90% traditional business and marketing.
7. It has always been true that the bands that make money are the ones that are prepared to work incredibly hard. This is usually the reason why a "better" band was passed over for a major label deal, because the label knew the band wouldn't work for it.
8. Sadly though, just working hard, doesn't mean you'll be successful. Nor does being really good and working hard.
9. Live performances (in the UK) are attracting record ticket sales, vastly outstripping what the prices were in the good old days.
10. There is a much broader market for licensing work to film, TV and advertising.
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