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Old 12-29-2011, 05:19 AM   #1
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Default What car do you hate the most, but without the best justification?
Is there a car that you just cant tolerate the sight of? Whose existence on the roads (or marketplace) infuriates you eliciting a sense of loathe and revile? Perhaps you have some reason, but an entirely rational one. If you are crazy: you may even know you shouldn't hate it; but of course the negative weighs heavier. And of course, this thread is not intended to insult anybody's car.

My example: The Mazda MX5/Miata of all generations making slight exception to the MazdaSpeed. I begrudgingly admit that this is actually a sportscar; sure its Rwd, light, very simple and relatively easy to modify (cram a V8 into). My problem is it's round (not curvy) shapes and overall "cute and smiling" personality which I find insufferable to witness. Furthermore, media outlets such as crap and driver gush over this car like its the greatest mainstream sportscar available (sorry but that's the C6 corvette). I will never let the MR2 live down it's abandonment of the small affordable (and underpowered) sportscar market segment.

And for reasons stated upfront; at some point I stupidly tried to convince myself to buy one - Didn't work.
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Old 12-29-2011, 06:04 AM   #2
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There's two I can think of right now:

Bangle-Era and Post-Bangle 7-Series BMW. Sure, it's luxurious, packed full with state-of-the-art technology, and one could argue one of the best luxo-barges money can buy. But I just cannot get past the design. I. JUST. CAN'T!!!

Most Ferraris. Yes, go on, shoot me. Not only do I despise the company's management for it's arrogance and forced marketing, but around 25% of its cars are ugly, 50% have at least some questionable design elements, and the remaining 25% are aesthetically pleasant in their entirety. When I see people call something as misshapen as the F420 or 612 a work of art, I really wonder about their tastes and what would pass to them as a work of art in the closed environment of a museum... And then there are the tifosi fanboys, who think that this is the be-all, end-all of all car manufacturers. Boy, don't get me started...

So yeah, those are my pet-hates. I keep telling myself that I justified them rationally, but alas, I'm sure people will disagree...
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Old 12-29-2011, 06:25 AM   #3
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My current greatest loathe is the Nissan Juke because it is exactly how NOT to style a vehicle. Everything about it is absolutely wrong. Yet people (some) find it cute.....
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Old 12-29-2011, 08:41 AM   #4
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The Cube. Kill it now please.
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Old 12-29-2011, 09:38 AM   #5
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Audi A6. How can you make a new car look so old, so mundane and so alike to the rest of the models in your lineup?
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Old 12-29-2011, 11:26 AM   #6
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Old 12-29-2011, 11:54 AM   #7
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right now I can only think of Murano CrossCabriolet. Like I said before, it just looks like a wet condom. I really don't understand why someone would buy that thing, Murano CC I mean. Sure it may be fun driving a convertible crossover for what, 5 minutes..but after that, I would be embarrassed being seen in one even with a paper bag on my head. Maybe with its' price tag, it's made for spoiled rich teenage girls who are sick of vw beetle, I don't know.
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Old 12-29-2011, 11:56 AM   #8
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I have yet to see one of those, not complaining either .
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Old 12-29-2011, 10:02 PM   #9
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I would say that anything automotive that I would hate the most, or be disappointed with the most, would be the malaise period from the late 70s through much of the 1980s, with the underpowered, crude, downsized, decontented, underpowered boxy (especially with unattractive, front-drive proportions) vehicles that were being produced.
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Old 12-30-2011, 01:24 AM   #10
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I dunno guys, hating the Murano CC and anything malaise-era are pretty justifiable.

Then again I can't think of any car I outright hate other than the Hummer H2 and H3...but those are pretty justifiable too.

Perhaps the current Subaru Legacy, because the styling is so offensively inept.
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Old 12-30-2011, 05:59 AM   #11
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Anything from Mansory - so much money, so little taste. I mean it's kind of not really a surprise if a cheap econobox is unattratcive, but make something expensive ofensive, or turning a dream car into a nightmare, is truly hateable ;-)
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Old 12-30-2011, 07:27 AM   #12
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The 2012 Honda ____________ (insert model of your choice here).


Also, the Nissan Maxima. No, wait, just Maxima drivers.
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Old 12-30-2011, 08:16 AM   #13
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I like the current Maxima, but the previous gen of that car was ugly as sin. What makes me hate it even more is that people (especially owners) thought it was the coolest thing around and they applauded it for its design. I can't think of car I despise more than the previous generation Maxima.
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Old 12-30-2011, 10:33 AM   #14
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The Daewoo/Chevrolet Matiz. But mostly because every single one of them seems to be driven by people who don't know or care how to drive, so my hatred is, i think, pretty logical. The fact that i usually scream their name in despair as soon as i see them... not so logical.

MATIIIZ!!!

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Old 12-31-2011, 12:55 AM   #15
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Old 12-31-2011, 10:12 AM   #16
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It's more like our "local Escalade."
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Old 01-01-2012, 02:13 AM   #17
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If this is applicable to this thread, I add to it by saying that I never cared for the lower trim-levels of many offerings that have the smaller, skinnier wheels with the cheap, plastic wheel-covers over steel-wheels. However, the high-spec versions with larger-diameter alloys, and a touch more bling can really be a polar-opposite, I'll state the new-generation Toyota Camry for example.

Another thing that I never liked either lower-end vehicles, or trucks/SUVs that have the hard-plastic material dashboard/IP as well as the surfaces, particularly the upper areas of the door-panels. I can see a lower-end vehicle or an econobox having the hard-plastics, for keeping it to a price-point, but on a mid-to-higher-priced truck or SUV, it's very cheap-feeling and out of place. One thing that is a general turnoff is a cheap or chintzy, plasticy interior, and in any vehicle, like Chrysler before Fiat stepped in is a good example or many GM products of the 90s and part of the last decade.

I'll add to this by saying any vehicle that still offers a older-school fixed, stem-like radio-antenna (especially mounted on the right-front fender, on some cars, it was later mounted in the back, which didn't appear as bad, but, still cheap), and this day and age, though this is is the norm on most or all full-sized, BOF pickup trucks. These appear to still be used on Toyota's SUVs and minivans, particular the lower-spec Highlander and Senna minivan, where there's a more discreet and later type, mounted on the roof, in higher-spec models. Oddly enough, the new-generation 4-Runner as the old-type, dated antenna on the right-front fender, and one would think it would have gotten a newer-type, roof-mounted setup. Personally, I don't know why a newer, either roof or glass mounted antenna is applied to the full-sized pickup trucks, especially this day and age.

Another thing is any lower-end vehicle, and, in some cases (I believe) full-sized pickup trucks that still apply rear-drum brakes. This is a backward braking-system, and, I'll say that all vehicles, even the most entry-level econoboxs, should have all-wheel-disk brakes standard, with the ABS, and if stability-control is set to become standard, from what I understand, then so should all-wheel-disk, in all vehicles. This should have even been the case some 20 years back, let alone today.

Another thing that I'll add is vehicles, especially above bread & butter compacts and econoboxs that use a low-rent prop-rod to hold up a hood. Anything mid sized and up, I feel that this is a cheap way out, and it cant be much more to have the air-cylinders to support it, though the prop-rod feels much cheaper. Oddly enough, a Nissan GT-R "Godzilla", for a halo-car and high-end performance car of it's class and level, still uses a prop-rod for it's hood, which, to me, is the only short-coming of this great ride, though it would not be a deal-breaker.
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Old 01-01-2012, 07:18 AM   #18
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The rear drum argument doesn't completely hold water given that there are ABS vehicles with rear drums that perform well. The same is true about the harping over the Mustang having a live axle, yet is routinely outhandles the Camaro and Challenger not to mention others. The bottom line is if the parts work well they are not outmoded. Now if using drum brakes on the back of a Chevy Sonic (for example) keeps the price down, so be it.
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Old 04-24-2012, 01:54 PM   #20
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The only car being made currently that I absolutely despise more than the Toyota Prius is the Ferrari 458 Italia.
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