[feroiodpiop]

So....after extensive listening I still maintain that they are without doubt the best headphones available for dance music (which is all I listen to on headphones). However, I will concede that they are f**king w**k for any other genre known to man. Can we close the book on this now?

[Preegovesem]

What better way to close the book on a subject than to start a new thread!

[orillaVar]

Want another round at it?

What aspect of them makes them best for dance music?

[Lilji]

Want another round at it?

What aspect of them makes them best for dance music?

The thud that they bring.

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What better way to close the book on a subject than to start a new thread!

Haha, I'm glad someone picked up on that

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My eyeballs are actually hurting to the time of the beat.

[bactrimtab]

OK. There's so much I could throw at you but I'll keep it simple for now.

So what prevents any other headphone of it's price from achieving said "thud" with a simple EQ tweak?

EDIT: You're drunk? Should I even bother?

[teentodiefows]

OK. There's so much I could throw at you but I'll keep it simple for now.

So what prevents any other headphone of it's price from achieving said "thud" with a simple EQ tweak?

EDIT: You're drunk? Should I even bother?

If you can find another pair of cans that vibrate enough on your ears enough for you to feel the bass then I'd like to meet them.

EDIT: I might be drunk, but I'm still capable of arguing :-D

[Junrlaeh]

So what you basically want is a head massaging device.

[sauppyshurb]

If you can find another pair of cans that vibrate enough on your ears enough for you to feel the bass then I'd like to meet them.

EDIT: I might be drunk, but I'm still capable of arguing :-D

You are a great troll....
It seems you like your headphones to produce a colorful/warm sound... good bass.. but your lack of taste in music and inability to tell any difference between good and bad headphones/sound. And you enjoy the dre beats... If you ever want to get a serious pair of headphones then go buy these...


Senn HD 650
http://www.google.com/products/catal...ed=0CGAQ8wIwAQ

The Amplifier
http://schiit.com/cart/index.php?mai...&products_id=2

The DAC
http://schiit.com/cart/index.php?mai...&products_id=7


And prepare to have your brain melt in audio pleasure.

[THOUTHCAW]

E7 + AT ATHM50 (With Line Out)

It will rattle your brain and still have clarity.

[repldoinfo]

Try on the AiAiAi TMA1. Superior sensitivity, clarity, precision and soundstage at half the price. They are good in general, but superb for electronic music.

I have done side-by-side comparison with numerous Beats models and only the top-end $500-odd ones were comparable. Most Beats headphones are atrocious to my ears. The top-end ones are good cans, IMO, but a terrible value.

[xochex]

I got beats headphones with my sensation xe.
The headphones themselves are nice, but beats a crap! Im using power amp with them and it was a case of wow! they were so much more amazing.

[Loonerisav]

That's what I was trying to get through to him in the very original thread.

They high end ones he got are not rubbish, they're rubbish for their price.

Decent set if they cost less than half the price.

[dr-eavealer]

You are a great troll....

I just can't take you seriously anymore. Every time you post I can't get past this image in my head...

[AdobebePhoto]

[Agrisalia]

Sober now?

Let's keep at it. How loud do you think your bass hits are in decibels? 85db? 90db? 110db ( yikes )? There are 30€ headphones that can push that with less distortion than the beats. You said you wanted to be introduced to such 'phones? Well, take a blind pick from any full-sized headphones and you're probably gonna have what you seek. You can EQ basically almost any headphones to have the level of bass loudness that the beats have. Only, they will be superior in every other objective quality measure.

"Loud" is the easiest thing in home audio to achieve. The ideal audio transducer repeats the signal fed into them without adding or removing anything. How close to this ideal the transducer gets is the only objective qualifier of it's performance and the only way to realistically determine street price for the transducer.

The beats, compared to almost any other headphones, add a lot of excess bass and distortion. With all likelyhood whoever produced the music you're listening to used much more neutral transducers to produce the music, than you're using to listen to it. Most certainly so if they employed an audio engineer to do the mix, like recording companies generally would. With the beats you're not getting anywhere close to the intended reproduction. Therefore the beats fail the only test of quality there is for audio reproduction. They fail it worse than some 30€ headphones.

I'm sure you want your loud bass beat to have slam instead of a slush. The square wave measurement scientifically proves that the beats have the slowest transient response I've ever seen on a pair of headphones. In English, what this means for your bass beat is that the hit, or attack, doesn't start sharply, but rather slopes upwards to maximum volume. Then when the bass hit ends, the headphones don't stop producing the sound immediately, but rather again slope back downwards. The end result is a comparatively soft, even though still loud, beat.

Now you may like the sound signature, but there's no reason to spend 300-400€ on beats to get it. All you need is 30€ and a free software EQ for your PC. Same amount of bass, less distortion, more definition, faster transients, faster attack and decay. But I get the feeling from your beats and apple threads that you're not necessarily buying based on science and reason, but rather feeling. Feeling that can and probably has been heavily influenced by marketing.

[Gromiaaborn]

If you can find another pair of cans that vibrate enough on your ears enough for you to feel the bass then I'd like to meet them.

EDIT: I might be drunk, but I'm still capable of arguing :-D

That is the exact problem I had with them when I auditioned some, they vibrate more on my head then actually outputting real bass.

[codespokerbonus]

http://www.innerfidelity.com/content...d-beats-dr-dre

Look at the lovely frequency response!!

[iuopyra]

They are good if you havn't heard anything better and don't know how to critically listen to headphones, and have no idea about audio at all. To my ears they sounded poor.

If you try something like Denon D2000/D5000 they are FAR better in every way or apparently even the M-audio Q40 at £100 have an almost perfect bass response down to 15hz.... There are loads of headphones which are far better then that cheap mass produced, heavily advertised rubbish.

If you call a massive hump in the midbass which is added to give the impression of proper bass good and you have not heard proper headphones then that is fine. But they are not very good headphones, they are just well marketed to appeal to people who have the "sheeple" mentality, £150 spare and no idea at all about audio.

I could name loads of pair of headphones which are better and cheaper and have better mid bass and sub bass response, not just a massive overbloated midbass which sounds good to someone who has not heard any good headphones on a amplifier and not out of an Mp3 player. It is not hard to make headphones which have a massively bloated midbass, good headphones have sub bass below 45hz. Also the imaging and soundstaging on the beats is rubbish, but then the target audience of those headphones probably don't even know what those words mean.

[Klavalala]

These "beats" headphones are a complete and utter fraud, they are built in China to the same kind of standards that normal pack in headphones/earphones then marked up to huge amounts to make them seem "premium".

You want to know what they do with the huge markup they make on these products ? They go straight to certain athletes and socialites who get paid to wear them when in public so that it seems like its cool and trendy.

[TimoPizaz]

I bought a set of Creative Fatal1ty a while back, they're shite!!