[yovbQVpD]

It would, yet I must say that every Russian I know has laughed at me when suggesting such an alliance.

The Russians and the Chinese do not have a friendly history.

I think China gives the Libya situation a pass as they have been extremely active in sub-Saharan Africa for a long time now.

[Manteiv]

It would seem only natural for Russia and China to form an alliance in the coming global war. Probably already have?

Maybe, but those two country's/peoples have not really liked each other , ever! China wants Russia's resources, Siberia comes too mind.

[taesrom]

At War With Libya (1941)


Looks like the current government has fallen to NATO Al-CIA-da and the Eastern Tribe. Another country looted and no longer any threat for regional power now that tribe on tribe (and immigrants) warfare will continue to fester and local resources fiated to the NWO.

[lesso73]

FN again, Browning High Power .
@ 1:13 totally new black pistol, @ 1:19 polished worn pistol, both look like Browning HP.
Contrast the 1:19 polished pistol to the Sterlings totally black, especially magazine,
brand new, right out of the box to stage a photo op.

Whose arming these people is key to understanding what is going on.

And all these weapons are premium expensive weapons.

Here is a normal use older FN FAL, it is normal polishing, I wouldn't
even call the original finish bluing, parkerized comes off easily, especially on edges,
M16, AR15 modern black finish is much tougher to remove.
So this weapon is still excellent condition and normal looking.

[NvrNoNowX]

Gadaffi's Supposedly Arrested Son, Very Much Free, Hobnobbing With Reporters At Tripoli's Rixos Hotel


When we said yesterday, while presenting live video of the "alleged" Libyan revolution, that "Since everyone is blatantly lying, on both sides of the conflict, we leave it to readers to decide what is actually happening." Which is why we can understand why some may have gotten the impression that Gadaffi's son Saif al Isam was arrested, after the Libyan rebel movement first reported this, and the ICC subsequently confirmed. Because it turns out he is anything but. According to Reuters, "Saif al Islam, the son of Libya leader Muammar Gaddafi who rebels and the International Criminal Court had been arrested, arrived in the early hours of Tuesday at the Tripoli hotel where foreign reporters have been staying." The following live blog from SkyNews merely confirms what we said yesterday: namely that Libyans on both sides of the divided have taken to doing what the developed (and for now, far less revolutionary) world does so well on a daily basis - lie to everyone about everything.

[CathBraunn]

Gadaffi's Supposedly Arrested Son, Very Much Free, Hobnobbing With Reporters At Tripoli's Rixos Hotel

video: http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/...XXJ_video.html

[NvrNoNowX]

This vid is about 6 weeks old, but still, WTF!

Anyone else find anything wrong with this vid?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1yC4...layer_embedded

[Stovegeothnon]

Al Jazeera = MI6

[lesso73]

Exposed: MI6 spies paved rebel path to Tripoli battlefront

[NvrNoNowX]

Gadhafi’s Secret Scrapbook Of Condoleezza Rice Pictures
Sometimes world leaders are like the rest of us and have a crush on a girl they figure would never like them. Via MSNBC:The Libyan rebels’ ransacking of Moammar Gadhafi’s compound is turning up some bizarre loot. The latest discovery is a photo album filled with page after page of pictures of Condoleezza Rice.

The former U.S. Secretary of State paid a visit to Tripoli in 2008 during a brief interlude that saw Gadhafi begin to be welcomed back into the international fold. As Jason Ukman of the Washington Post wrote on Wednesday, “it was only three short years ago that Rice shared a late-night dinner with Gaddafi to break the Ramadan fast, three short years ago that the United States and Libya were celebrating what was to be a new chapter in their relations.”

In a 2007 interview with al-Jazeera television, Gadhafi spoke of Rice in glowing terms. “I support my darling black African woman,” he said. “I admire and am very proud of the way she leans back and gives orders to the Arab leaders … Leezza, Leezza, Leezza. … I love her very much. I admire her and I’m proud of her because she’s a black woman of African origin.” I think this story deserves this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezYl2O6z9Gc


excellent album too.

[agrismhig]

This vid is about 6 weeks old, but still, WTF!

Anyone else find anything wrong with this vid?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1yC4...layer_embedded

I'll bite, Im not seeing whats wrong? Is it that people are doing stuff for free to support the rebels logistics?

[NvrNoNowX]

I'll bite, Im not seeing whats wrong? Is it that people are doing stuff for free to support the rebels logistics?

There were a few things that I thought were odd. Not trying to bait anyone.

Are the Libyans that enamored with pizza? Who is funding 10,000 personal pizza? That is a lot of fresh veggies for a "war zone".
The "ad" seemed like a smiley face war is ok piece.

If it is such a war zone, why is the chick riding in the back of a truck? For the story?

Seemed like a fluff piece to me.

[agrismhig]

There were a few things that I thought were odd. Not trying to bait anyone.

Are the Libyans that enamored with pizza? Who is funding 10,000 personal pizza? That is a lot of fresh veggies for a "war zone".
The "ad" seemed like a smiley face war is ok piece.

If it is such a war zone, why is the chick riding in the back of a truck? For the story?

Seemed like a fluff piece to me.

Ah, ok, I thought I was missing something like major and totaly obvious and felt dumb.

I agree with you on all points. The pizza, well thats easy, ingredients for a pizza are cheap and readily available almost anywhere. 10,000 does seem like a lot though and probably fluffed up significantly. Maybe he meant 10,000 total, cause it would take DAYS running 24/7 to make that much food, any food, with those kinds of facilities.

And yeah, they were defintley WAY behind the front lines if they were casual changing oil and dirving around in a Technical on the high way with other traffic.

Hearts and Minds arent just won in foreign countries, you need domestic support to and who doesnt love pizza!

[lesso73]

This smells awfully like the wars against the Europeans where the Muslims
were the supposed victims and the Serbs evil, Nato is bombing and killing
civilians and lying about it, they put out news lies that the regime fell, these
are psyops, to demoralize Libyans, they are supporting mass murdering
thugs, the same butchers that somehow find their way from one country
to the next killing civilians, in one country the West supports them, in others
they bomb them, move them around to create problems and blatantly lie
to the Western populations.

I am not even pro Muslim nor pro Libyan. This doesn't solve anything,
and more than likely everyone will lose but the top behind these wars.
Libyans, even Europeans. Seems they are putting Jihadists into power
again just like they did in Iraq. Leave Libya alone, close the borders
of Western countries, stop messing with them, there are ways of dealing
with China and Russia even in this part of the world, embrace Libya
economically, that was the case already.

This is all Israel and NeoCons.

According to Poddy/Podheretz I should promote the history of this area
and bomb the shit out of the Muslims as payback saluting the NeoCon Jew Commies.

[taesrom]

Original site has a few dozen links behind the statements.

NATO's "Victory" in Libya Genocide and Rebel Infighting
Global Research Tony Cartalucci

Desperate to declare NATO's mission in Libya a victory ahead of the September 19, 2011 deadline on their contrived UN Security Council resolution, already violated in every conceivable manner possible, NATO planes in tandem with NATO special forces obliterated Tripoli ahead of swarms of Libyan rebel troops led by notorious Al Qaeda thug Abdulhakim Hasadi (aka Balhaj.) Three weeks later, NATO's proxy Libyan representative, long-time globalist and servant of the West Mahmoud Gibril Elwarfally, touched down at Tripoli's airport, one of the few enclaves held by rebels in the city, to give the impression that his "National Transitional Council" (NTC) actually controls the capital and therefore the country.

In reality, Gibril (also spelled Jabril) is in control of nothing, apparently not even his own rebel forces, and stunts such as landing in Tripoli are desperate ploys to portray a sense of strength and resolve to garner continued "international support" as NATO's deadline quickly approaches. Libya's rebellion, despite the corporate-media's disingenuous presentation, is divided along tribal and ethnic lines, with most of Libya's rebels being motivated, not by aspirations for liberal-democracy, but rather by ideological extremism cultivated over the last 30 years by US and British intelligence in the eastern cities of Darnah and Benghazi. As NATO enables these violent ideologues to expand their control over the country, they are systematically committing war crimes including large-scale theft and looting, exiling entire civilian populations from cities, and wholesale genocide. They are also reportedly turning their weapons on one another.

To compound Gibril's precarious situation, the few fighters he has that are following orders are stretched thin between attempting to hold parts of Tripoli, holding other towns and cities beyond their Benghazi stronghold, and attempting to siege entire cities still standing defiantly against NATO and rebel conquest. The cities of Bani Walid and Sirte, both claimed by rebels as ripe to fall "within hours" have now entirely balked rebel advances, causing many forces to flee with reports that fighters coming back from the front lines are overwhelmed and demoralized.

Despite heavy, and quite obviously indiscriminate bombing by NATO for the better part of two weeks, resistance in these two cities is still fierce enough to keep the rebels well at bay. It is quite apparent that initial reports by Gabril's "NTC" that only 60-150 Qaddafi fighters remained in Bani Walid, were yet another lie and that the entire city's civilian population is putting up resistance. The number of "resisters" has gone up piecemeal as the rebel operation drags on, with the number of "Qaddafi soldiers" fighting in Bani Walid well past 1,000 now.

Bani Walid is predominately made of members of Libya's one-million strong Warfalla tribe, and is decidedly not interested in NATO's sponsored "Benghazi liberation." In the wake of NATO's bombing campaign and special forces entering Tripoli and their setting the stage for looting, torture, and genocide, and after months of reporting on the Libyan rebels' penchant for war crimes, the London Telegraph has finally admitted in short that the rebels are in fact genocidal racists. In the Telegraph's article "Gaddafi's ghost town after the loyalists retreat," it is reported that rebels have taken the city of Tawarga, where the entire civilian population was either killed, rounded up, or exiled.

The article notes "racist undercurrents" within the Libyan rebellion, a factor independent analysts have been warning about since NATO intervened in March. The report also quotes rebel leaders as saying in regards to the vast amount of property left behind by the exiled population, "the military council will decide what will happen to the buildings. But over our dead bodies will the Tawargas return." Another rebel commender concluded, "Tawarga no longer exists." Of course, exiling an entire civilian population from their homes and arbitrarily seizing their property is a grievous war crime, and in this particular case, a war crime done under NATO cover, with US and British diplomatic recognition of the war criminals remaining steadfast, and even many of the arms and the training used to carry out such war crimes courtesy of NATO.

With the fate of Tawarga befalling an increasingly larger number of cities and towns amidst NATO's campaign of "liberation," increasingly fierce resistance throughout Libya, including by the entire populations of both Sirte and Bani Walid, is not unexpected. They indeed face NATO sanctioned door-to-door genocide, exile, theft, looting, torture, and in essence everything in reality that NATO falsely accused Qaddafi of doing to justify their military intervention in the first place. Libya is turning out to be a NATO-led Hitlerian campaign of conquest, complete with collective punishment and ground troops carrying out appalling atrocities. The rebels are literally led by a US State Department and UK Home Office listed terror organization, the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG), who's commander Abdulhakim Hasadi has openly admitted to fighting NATO troops in Afghanistan. What's worse is that these facts are not revelations, but well-known inconvenient truths NATO, with the help of the corporate-media, has tried to bury, spin, or otherwise obfuscate until the point of no return in their Libyan intervention had been reached.

As NATO races to dress up their failed operation in Libya as a success so that they can escape an upcoming September 19 vote on continuing the UN mandate under which this crime against humanity is being committed, the lies will become more acute and the atrocities infinitely more brutal and widespread. Now more than ever do Libyan's require a robust alternative media to cover the truth, "read between the lies" of the corporate-news networks, and ensure that this nation of 6 million is not buried by NATO in deception or the stark silence of public apathy.


Canada to extend Libya mission by three months
Harper to formally announce extension at NATO meeting next week
by macleans.ca on Wednesday, September 14, 2011 12:31pm - 2 Comments

Canada will extend its involvement in NATO’s Libya mission by three months, CTV reports. Prime Minister Stephen Harper is expected to formally announce the decision next week at a NATO meeting in New York. Canadian warplanes joined the bombing effort earlier this year to protect civilians from forces loyal to Moammar Gadhafi. Now the former rebels control much of the country, but pockets of loyalist resistance remain. Gadhafi’s whereabouts are also unknown. Abubaker Karmos, a Libyan dignitary to Canada, told CTV that his country still needs the protection of Canadian forces. He also suggested that Canadian companies could be rewarded with construction contracts as Libya begins rebuilding after its civil war. On Tuesday, Foreign Affairs Minister John Baird announced that Canada will reopen its embassy in Tripoli. He also said more than $2 billion in frozen Libyan assets will be released so that the new Libyan government can restore electricity, water and hospital service to people in the country.

[NvrNoNowX]

I tried to find this thread using the search function last night. I used Libya as my parameters. This thread didn't show up on the first page of selections for me.

[taesrom]

With many embedded links at original site.

Al Qaeda LIFG leader Abdul Belhaj writes column for London Guardian!
Global elite defile memories of "War on Terror" dead, humor terrorist Belhaj who fought and killed Western troops.

Tony Cartalucci, Contributing Writer
Activist Post

One would think Abdul Belhaj, leader of Libya's NATO-backed seizure of Tripoli a month ago would be an overly busy man. After all, the city itself is still not secure enough to move the alleged "National Transitional Council" there to preside over the war torn nation, and rebel forces 85 miles southeast near Bani Walid have been soundly defeated and are now slinking away from the battlefield.

Meanwhile, the "final, final" siege of Sirte looks to be once again stalled, and now civilians fleeing the brutalized city are claiming NATO and revolutionaries, not Qaddafi, are committing genocide against the civilians of Libya. [1]


Photo: The face of Libya's "revolution" is literally Al Qaeda. The Western world now enters surreal territory as men who have certifiably killed Americans are writing pro-NATO propaganda for British newspapers.

However, Mr. Belhaj has had time, apparently, allegedly, to draft a lengthy editorial titled, "The revolution belongs to all Libyans, secular or not," gladly published by the London Guardian, where he is allowed to go on at length, whitewashing what is essential a life-long career in terrorism, and expound the merits of the wholesale mass murder he and his cohorts, under NATO cover, are committing against the Libyan people. Belhaj, for those that don't know, is a founding member of the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG), an official Al Qaeda affiliate, and listed by both the US State Department [2] and the United Kingdom Home Office [3] as a foreign terrorist organization and proscribed terrorist organization respectively. LIFG was the subject of a lengthy report issued by West Point's Combating Terrorism Center [4] regarding foreign fighters turning up in Iraq killing US and British soldiers, LIFG and more specifically, the Benghazi-Darnah region of Libya lending more fighters to Iraq per-capita than any other nation, including Saudi Arabia.


Image: Terrorist Op-Ed. The Guardian affords Belhaj, commander of LIFG, a US/UK listed terrorist organization ample room to praise NATO's efforts in Libya and give stern warnings to those that threaten to impede his "freedoms."
....
Belhaj's Guardian piece, worded suspiciously more like a US State Department PR release than an essay by an Al Qaeda terrorist, verbatim touches on each and every point made by the US, UK, NATO, and found within UNSC r.1973. Belhaj maintains that in 2010 he was released from Libyan prison after promising to abandon his campaign of terror in Libya, only to go on to lead armed insurrection against the Libyan government months later in February of 2011. Belhaj claims that the revolution turned violent only after Qaddafi used force against protesters - this is a verified lie, as Belhaj and his LIFG have been in continuous US/UK-backed armed conflict with Qaddafi's government for over 30 years.

Belhaj, after this intitial, seemingly scripted litany of lies goes on to make veiled threats against the new "transitional government" over the dangers of "excluding" members of the "revolution." He then thanks the "international community" presumibly NATO who literally handed the country to him - NATO whose soldiers he was killing in the mountains of Afghanistan, and whose soldiers his fellow LIFG fighters were killing in Iraq, and whose member states captured, imprisoned and tortured him. Belhaj looks forward to Libya becoming a "politically, economically and socially advanced civil state" and a "dynamic player among the family of nations." Compared to the secular leaders Belhaj claims to fear will undermine his and his followers' "freedom" one must wonder where exactly the divergence in ideology is, as both seem to relish the concepts of globalization [5].

One doesn't know whether to laugh, cry, or scream. Not just because of the obvious fraudulent propaganda the Gaurdian is trying to pass off as the words of a stone cold killer with the writing prowess of a statesman, or the fact that the Guardian, even as a hoax, is affording column space to the leader of a listed terrorist organization who we are told is part of a decade long war that has cost millions their lives, liberty, national stability, and economic prosperity. It is the fact that the Guardian, along with the rest of the corporate media is trying to literally rewrite reality and paradigms they have forced down our throats for decades with new narratives so ridiculous and contrived it is an assault against human dignity.

The Guardian itself is a corporate-owned propaganda machine, a member of the unelected policy think-tank Chatham House [6], along side a myriad of other media, corporate, and financier interests that in reality shape our national and global destiny rather than the politicians we think we elect to represent us and our interests. Think-tanks like the Chatham House represent the collective interests and agenda of the world's most powerful elite. They are the literal architects and helping hands that propel the global elite's agenda forward, as clearly the Guardian is now in trying to rewrite the narrative regarding the 10 year ongoing "War on Terror" by whitewashing and elevating one of the war's most notorious terrorists by either giving him column space, or ghost writing a column in his name.

Quite truly if Belhaj wrote this farcical, verbatim repeat of US State Department talking points regarding Libya and its future, one must wonder what prompted Belhaj to fight in the mountains of Afghanistan against US troops in the first place. Surely what is good for Libya is good for Afghanistan. We must also wonder why this terrorist and his organization, apparently enamored with the the idea of fitting into the "family of nations" were fighting in Iraq against nations he is now thankful toward. More than likely Belhaj has been turned into another fictional character upon the stage of globalist theater, confounding an ignorant public with well-written statements giving well-intentioned people exactly what they want to hear, however debased the logic or reality may be.

And, above all, let us remember this is not only "Obama's War" but a war of the global elite including big oil, big banks, the military defense industry, and many of the "Neo-Conservatives" that helped engineer the "War on Terror" during Bush's "administration." In fact, some of the most vehement supporters of Obama's war in Libya have included John McCain [7] who was literally praising the Benghazi terror brigades in person, and the remnants of the Bush era "Project for a New American Century." [8]

The "War on Terror" is a war on free humanity by the criminally insane. Civilians, police, and military alike, who adhere to any code of honor must face the reality that their leadership has lost all legitimacy and needs to be expediently removed from power. Hard decisions are coming as the insanity becomes ever more acute. A certified terrorist writing columns for a British newspaper regarding a war that is supported by both "left" and "right" political establishment should ring alarms and conjure horror in even the most skeptical of minds.

[1] The Australian, "Civilians accuse NATO of massacre in Sirte raids" September 28, 2011
[2] US State Department, List of Foreign Terrorist Organizations, #26 Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG)
[3] UK Home Office Proscribed Terrorist Groups, page 5
[4] 2007 West Point Combating Terrorism Center (CTC) report
[5] The Future of Libya: A View from the Opposition, Brookings Institution May 12, 2011
[6] Chatham House, Standard Corporate Members, listed as "Guardian, The"
[7] Senate.gov, Statement by Senator McCain in Benghazi, Libya April 22, 2011
[8] Foreign Policy Initiative, Foreign Policy Experts Urge House Republicans to Support U.S. Operations in Libya, June 20, 2011


Tony Cartalucci's articles have appeared on many alternative media websites, including his own at
Land Destroyer Report.