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Old 12-28-2011, 07:16 PM   #21
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I just came across this on another forum and thought, how perfect for the discussion we are having here:
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Old 12-28-2011, 10:04 PM   #22
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I'm starting a 30 day juice fast tomorrow, and I'll probably get one of these during the 3rd week.
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Old 12-28-2011, 10:21 PM   #23
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first coffee enemas... then brown showers
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Old 12-28-2011, 10:37 PM   #24
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You know, sometimes I wonder if all this health stuff is just a bunch of BS.

It's the guy who does coffee enema's...he's the guy that ends up dying of cancer. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy. Ever notice how the hypochondriac guy is the guy who's always sick, yet the guy who drinks 6 beers and smokes a pack of cigs a day lives just fine.

Nobody worried about this shit 50 years ago. It's all the same programming, plant a 'seed' in your mind about a fear "health", and you can control people's actions that way.

If you adopt a philosophy of live day by day, "seize the day", as people have for thousands of years and been just fine, none of this matters anymore.

Bottom line, mention to a guy 100 years ago, tell him he needed a coffee enema. You'd get your ass kicked.
Fifty years ago or a hundred years ago it was common & no one would kick u in da arse. Times have changed.
The OP says an enema is a "barbaric natural remedy" or something like that.
It's not barbaric. Modern medicine is barbaric.
Enemas don't cure, they're a part of a healing protocol. A part.
A couple of enemas aren't going to do anything done ALONE.

Also, the person who can smoke, drink all day every day, do drugs & eat garbage has a strong body constitution.
Not everyone has this. WE CAN ONLY LIVE THE HARD WAY (the above^ AS TO WHAT OUR BODY CONSTITUTION ALLOWS.)
I have a weaker body constitution so I have to be a litttle more careful,
but I have family members that could drink a keg everyday & schmoke like a diesel, eat kielbassi, hotdogs, chips, junk processed foods
AND NEVER GET SICK.

Our each individual body constitution has to be taken into account as to how much hard living we can do.
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Old 12-28-2011, 10:55 PM   #25
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Very nice, learn2swim. Which protocol are you fasting on? Master cleanse, or traditional vegetable juice style?

I'm very interested in fasting, although it has been over 2 years since my last fast. I've done several 14 day fasts, and a 20 day. At this point I am confident I could handle 30.

Do you drink herbal tea while fasting? I usually do. Lots of water soluble vitamins. Usually peppermint or anise to help out my digestive tract.

Very interested, please share more!
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Old 12-28-2011, 11:05 PM   #26
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I'm starting a 30 day juice fast tomorrow, and I'll probably get one of these during the 3rd week.
Have you ever had one before ? Please let us know how your fast goes and anything else you're willing to share on your journey about your 30 day juice fast.
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Old 12-28-2011, 11:06 PM   #27
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There is no respite or escape anywhere on earth from the toxins that stifle our planet and overwhelm our bodies. Even our best efforts to eliminate or restrict exposure are often not adequate to the task, and as our toxic load increases so does our chance of developing chronic illness and disease.

As explored in the first three parts of this series there are several methods for releasing the stockpile of chemicals and other toxins from the body in order to maintain or regain health. An alkaline diet devoid of processed foods isn't always enough, and sometimes extreme measures are necessary to provide the level of cleansing required to keep up with the toxic onslaught.

The little understood and much disparaged coffee enema is one such method of purification that cleanses the liver – the body's largest filter – and provides a multitude of health benefits to the ailing body. Acceptance of the coffee enema's value may result from an understanding of its history and therapeutic benefits.

Historical Use of Enemas

The use of therapeutic coffee enemas began during WWI; however, water enemas have been used for detoxification throughout the ages. In fact, the Vatican holds a third-century Aramaic manuscript in which enema directions are graphically transcribed. In the book The Gerson Therapy by Charlotte Gerson, daughter of famed cancer specialist Max Gerson M.D., and Morton Walker, D.P.M., these ancient instructions for detoxification are recorded:

I tell you truly, the angel of water shall cast out of your body all uncleanness which defiled it without and within. And all unclean and evil-smelling things shall flow out of you... I tell you truly, holy is the angel of water who cleanses all that is unclean and makes all evil-smelling things of a sweet odor...

Think not that it is sufficient that the angel of water embrace you outwards only. I tell you truly, the uncleanness within is greater by much than the uncleanness without. And he who cleanses himself without, but within remains unclean, is like to tombs that outwards are painted fair, but are within full of all manner of horrible uncleanness and abominations...

Seek, therefore, a large trailing gourd, having a stalk the length of a man; take out its inwards and fill it with water from the river which the sun has warmed. Hang it upon the branch of a tree, and kneel upon the ground before the angel of water, and suffer the end of the stalk of the trailing gourd to enter your hinder parts, that the water may flow through all your bowels. Afterwards rest kneeling on the ground...and pray to the angel of water that he will free your body from every uncleanness and disease. Then let the water run out from your body, that it may carry away from within it all the unclean and evil-smelling things... And you shall see with your eyes and smell with your nose all the abominations and uncleanness which defiled the temple of your body... tormenting you with all manner of pains. I tell you truly, baptism with water frees you from all of these. Renew your baptizing with water on every day of your fast, till the day when you see that the water which flows out of you is as pure as the river's foam...
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Coffee Enemas for Detoxification

The time-tested water enema evolved during WWI when German medic supplies – including morphine – were in short supply and nurses were desperate to find ways of alleviating the post-surgery pain of severely wounded soldiers. Water enemas were routinely used, but anxious to find a more potent pain reliever, one resourceful nurse intuitively used leftover brewed coffee and found it to be highly effective.

Reports of the coffee's analgesic benefits prompted two German researchers to study the properties in coffee that produced these effects. In the 1920s, after experimenting with rats, they published their findings that the caffeinated enemas stimulated the opening of bile ducts (Bile is formed by the liver, stored in the gallbladder, and secreted into the intestines - via bile ducts - carrying waste for transit from the body).

Dr. Max Gerson became familiar with the research and eventually adapted the use of coffee enemas into his detoxification therapy. Gerson observed that cancer patients didn't die of the disease process itself, but rather because of the liver's inability to detoxify and process the barrage of dissolving tumor masses and other metabolic toxins released in abundance as a result of his nutritional therapy. The addition of coffee enemas into the protocol resolved this dilemma.

His patients learned to self-administer the enemas up to four times daily to facilitate the continuous release of toxins from the body. The high success rate of the Gerson Therapy with terminal cancer and other serious illnesses is a testament to his nutritional protocol and the coffee enema's detoxifying and restorative benefits for the liver.

In addition to its uses for pain relief, treatment and detoxification, the coffee enema is also a highly effective method of disease prevention and health maintenance.

Detoxification Mechanism of the Coffee Enema

The Gerson Therapy explains that caffeine and palmitates (chemicals in coffee) work synergistically to stimulate and cleanse the liver and blood. Without entering the digestive tract the caffeine is absorbed through the bowel wall, via blood vessels, and makes its way directly to the liver.

The caffeine exposure causes the liver's portal veins and the bile ducts to expand which increases the release of diluted toxic bile. The enema fluid triggers peristalsis (intestinal muscle contractions) and the efficient removal of wastes from the body.

Palmitates in the coffee stimulate and increase the production of a liver enzyme called glutathione-S-transferase (GST), which removes free radicals and cancer cells from the bloodstream and facilitates detoxification of the liver. As a result of the enema the liver becomes less congested with debris, which makes room for the filtering process of yet more bodily toxins.

Ideally, the coffee enema should be retained for twelve to fifteen minutes during which time the body's blood supply circulates and passes through the liver approximately five times (Every three minutes). Since the blood serum is detoxified as it flows through the caffeinated liver, the enema is essentially a form of blood dialysis (filtering) across the colon wall. Drinking coffee has no such therapeutic benefits and is in fact counter-productive.

Enema Procedure

As described in The Gerson Therapy, the enema coffee is made by adding three tablespoons of drip-grind (organic) coffee to one quart of boiling distilled water. After boiling uncovered for three minutes, the mixture is covered and simmered for fifteen more minutes. Hot water is added to replace what was lost through boiling. The quart solution is then strained and allowed to cool to body temperature.

The individual should have a comfortable place to lie down for the administering of the enema. It's best to lie on the right side with legs pulled up towards the chest.

Caffeine-sensitive individuals can easily use the enema without ill effects provided the enema bag or bucket is not placed more than eighteen inches above the end of the insertion tube, to prevent systemic absorption of the caffeine.

If retaining the enema for twelve to fifteen minutes is too difficult, then a series of two or three enemas of shorter duration may be tried. Over time, it becomes easier to retain the enema for the full fifteen minute interval. Holding for more than fifteen minutes is not recommended since the caffeine may be absorbed systemically.

Enema Tips

At least one therapeutic organic coffee blend has been developed for the sole purpose of enemas and may be found at (http://www.sawilsons.com/) .

For a milder effect, or if one has a sensitive colon due to chronic illness, herbal teas such as chamomile or Essiac may be used instead of, or in conjunction with the coffee enema. Prepare a quart of the desired tea following package instructions and proceed as with a coffee enema.

Alternatively, an enema of one-half quart tea may precede a coffee enema of the same quantity. Individuals who are unsure if the coffee or tea enema is an appropriate detoxification method for their condition should consult with a health care practitioner.

For nearly nine decades the coffee enema has proven itself to be effective at cleansing and restoring the liver, reducing and eliminating cancerous debris, and relieving severe pain from countless origins. It is yet another tool in the detoxification arsenal that should not be dismissed by anyone determined to prevent disease, reclaim their health or otherwise impede the ill effects of living in a toxic world.

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/022905.html#ixzz1hsSq5VMA


also

http://www.gersonhawaii.us/gersonarticle5.html


http://howtocoffeeenema.info/about-gerson-therapy
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Old 12-28-2011, 11:31 PM   #28
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50 years ago everyone died when they were 60 or 65, maybe 70. now everyone lives until their 80s or 90s. yet, i need to shove coffee up my ass to "be healthy." and if i call bullshit on shoving coffee up my ass, it's because "i won't accept the truth about natural healing." yet, there's zero studies about the benefits of shoving coffee up may ass. but that's because people who do studies about such things "won't accept the facts about natural healing." i'll still live in to my 80s or 90s instead of my 60s, though. probably just luck.
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Old 12-29-2011, 12:20 AM   #29
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Why Do People Live Longer Now

Modern medicine is proud to state that people are living longer now than ever before. But in no way does this mean that people are healthier.
Often older people are living in hospitals and nursing homes that use all kinds of equipment to keeping the people staying there alive.

One of the main things that has increased the average life-span is that more children are living through child birth, which is one of the great advancement and benefits of modern medicine. Now most babies are born in a hospital where there is emergency equipment and qualified doctors and nurses to deal with anything that might go wrong.

Also one of the main things that has stopped the epidemics that happened in the past is the addition of the flush toilet and advanced sewerage systems so waste and garbage is not all over the street but it is disposed of underground in secured pipes. In the past epidemic diseases were often spread by open sewages in the large cities.

Major diseases like cholera and typhoid fever are practically unknown in America and Europe because the main way these disease spreads is by insanitary conditions, which flush toilets and disinfected tap water help to eliminate.

In truth people may be living more years than ever before but people are often living an unhealthy life. People often look feeble and really unhealthy in their fifties, sixties and seventies. Often you can see people who are living a healthy natural life look really well in their sixties and seventies doing everything easily by their own power.
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Old 12-29-2011, 12:30 AM   #30
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Old 12-29-2011, 12:32 AM   #31
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i guess it would better if people died when they were 65 rather than living to 80 and being "unhealthy" and "looking feeble." how does whoever wrote this know people aren't living healthier? do they have a time machine by which to go back to 1872 and conduct studies? how do they know old people then weren't "unhealthy" and "looking feeble" as well? because they looked at some black and white photos?

part of the problem i have with all of the "shove coffee up your ass" nonsense is that if you don't believe it or want proof of it working, you're an unbeliever heathen. it's like an alcoholic who quit drinking, and now if anybody has 2 or 3 beers on a sunday afternoon they're going to get liver cancer, beat their wife, etc. there's no proof of that of course, but since they believe it, EVERYBODY should, or they are stupid.

i'd just like some facts that it actually works, not some guy going "there's proof that a chemical in coffee helps detox the liver, so everyone should shove it up their ass and that would work even better."

and what really annoys me is that if i ask for any trials, studies, etc. for proof I AM STUPID AND DO NOT UNDERSTAND NATURAL HEALING.

i get the caps screaming at me on almost any forum in which i ask these simple issues. i don't doubt it, i'd just like some proof other than "i quit drinking, and now should everybody else."
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Old 12-29-2011, 12:35 AM   #32
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I am so sad that you guys are upset. I am so sorry that I do not have the proper studies to show you results of.
If you don't like the idea of it, you would never have to even have a second thought about it.

The only proof I have that they help are the decades upon decades that natural healers have been doing them .
I posted 3 books from the top natural healers that the world has ever seen. They all 3 did enemas in their clinics.
The proof that a natural healing protocol (including enemas) saved thousands & thousands of lives is in their books and
the government shut down & arrested & imprisoned every one of them over & over again.

People do mouth rinses, gargles, ear washes, eye washes, douches, nasal cleanses all the time.
All orifices of the body need cleansed when they're sick to promote healing, that's all.

You don't have to do anything, it's just what you want to do.
You do not have to do any natural remedy that you don't feel comfortable with.

The gov't study in the OP is not complete. There's more to getting well than just one modality when your sick !
If I get cancer, well, yes, I will be going through a few enemas, if you wouldn't want to then don't .

Just take a deep breath now please .
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Old 12-29-2011, 01:08 AM   #33
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Aliens do it...


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Old 12-29-2011, 01:09 AM   #34
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Biological Basis for Coffee Enemas
a lecture by Gar Hildenbrand,
Excerpted from "How the Gerson Therapy Heals," 1990.

The coffee enema is capable of removing circulating toxins and partial metabolites for one specific reason, and that is that the coffee enema not only dilates bile ducts - which Gerson knew - we now know, from the work of Wattenberg, Sparnins, and Lam at the University of Minnesota, Department of Pathology, Minneapolis, that coffee stimulates an enzyme system in the liver, glutathione-S-transferase, that is capable of removing a vast variety of electrophiles from the bloodstream. Electrophiles are referred to in popular literature as free radicals.

Electrophiles are atomic particles with one or more electrons in unpaired spins. They have an affinity for electrons and they want to get involved where they should not get involved. They are charged particles, and they will damage membranes of cells and they will inflict disturbances in cellular metabolism.

Under the influence of a coffee enema the glutathione-S-transferase enzyme system - part of the ligandine enzyme system that accounts for about 3% of all enzymes in the liver, responsible for removing electrophiles from the blood stream - will be increased in activity from 600%-700% above normal. No materials other than coffee are known to stimulate it as much. That's why people are known to get a buzz off of a cup of coffee in the morning, and why some people are too grouchy to do anything but read the newspaper until they've had their coffee, and why coffee is so effective in clearing heads.

The coffee enema stimulates the glutathione-S-transferase system by 700%. During the time that the coffee enema is being held in the gut, all the blood in the body passes through the liver at least five times. Every three minutes, all the blood in your body passes through your liver. In addition to stimulating the enzyme system, the theobromine, theophylline, and the caffeine in coffee all have physiological effects. Among these are the dilation of blood vessels and bile ducts, the relaxation of smooth muscles, and the increase of bile flow. The palmitates, compounds in the coffee that actually stimulate glutathione-S-transferase, also cause increased bile flow.

In addition to that, the quart of water in your gut stimluates what is called the visceral nervous system. The viscera are the guts. The visceral nervous system is the nervous system that orchestrates what is called peristalsis, the weak force that moves materials through the intestines. The visceral nervous system is stimulated by a quart of water in the gut. Additionally, at least part of that quart of water passes through the wall of the gut and dilutes the hemorrhoidal and then the portal blood which goes into the liver, socks the liver, actually dilutes the bile and causes more readily increased bile flow. Also, the net effect of the coffee enema is to cause a flushing of toxic bile, or bile that has been loaded with toxins by the glutathione-S-transferase system, out of the intestines.

Glutathione-S-transferase shuttles; it's an enzyme catalyst. It's out there catching free radicals, like an outfielder on a baseball team, and throwing them to the glutathione molecule of the bile. The glutathione molecule has a branch called the sulfhydryl part that absorbs many electrophiles. It makes them inert in the same way that a clay slough can make atomic waste inert because it has great adsorptive capabilities. What then happens is that these things become bile solutes. The bile solutets in the bile are flushed out of the gallbladder and the liver, and into the duodenum, and peristalsis carries them through the small intestine, through the colon and out the rectum. That is effective dialysis. The coffee enema is the only pharmaceutically effective choleretic in the medical literature that is repeatable many times daily; choleretic, like diuretic. Diuretics cause urination. Choloretics cause bile flow.

The coffee enema is safe and effective when used as a part of this program as our physicians direct. Dr. Peter Lechner at the Landeskrankenhaus of Graz, Austria, has been working for six years now, studying a very modified Gerson Therapy. He has been using the coffee enemas as part of the post-surgical programs of the second surgery department of Landeskrankenhaus. He did some rat experiments in which palmitates were extracted from coffee, the cafestol palmitates, and in which they were seen to increase bile flow in the rats. Lechner became convinced, and wrote in a journal called Aktuelle Ernåhrungsmedizin (Contemporary Nutritional Medicine), 2 Band 15, April 1990, that these palmitic acid salts could be very powerful liver protective drugs if they would be developed by a pharmaceutical corporation.

Until that time, as he said, "We have to continue to administer them in the awkward form of enemas... because patients cannot be expected to consume the therapeutically necessary daily amount of at least one liter of coffee by drinking it, without risking side effects in the upper alimentary tract." Nothing else works.

In the Second Surgery Department of the Landeskrankenhaus in Graz, Lechner has a bunch of very normal colleagues who are, none of them enthusiastic about alternative therapies. But neither are they willing to argue with scientific fact. This is a six-year-long program. Its findings have been published twice.

So now you have coffee enemas cleansing the blood. What is the coffee enema removing? Ammonia-like products, toxic-bound nitrogen, protein derivatives that are often times charged particles, polyamines, amino acid clumps and complexes.

When I first talked to Regelson, in 1981, he asked me if the coffee enemas had been studied in the filed of Ammoniapathophysiology. I said I didn't know what he was talking about. He said, "The name Visik, the father of Ammoniapathophysiology. You probably haven't been taught about it because it is veterinary medicine." I said, "Oh, enlighten me please." He said that it was very simple.

Visik proposed and proved that if you antibios feedlot animals, you'll cut down on the amount of urea-splitting bacteria in their guts, lower their tissue and serum ammonia levels, and they will gain more carcass weight. You can get bigger, stronger, more muscle-loaded feedlot animals for more beef if you give them antibiotics. That is why we give antibiotics to beef.

We could give coffee enemas to animals and have the same effects. That's why Regelson wanted to know if we had studied this in the field of Ammoniapathhophysiology; that's where the coffee enemas belong. We are actually altering the level of tissue ammonias; and if it can help cattle to gain carcass weight in a feedlot, eating those ridiculous high-grain diets that cause the bacterial problems in the first place. Cattle are not designed to eat a lot of grain - if that can happen, certainly, coffee enemas, having similar effect in people who are not being subjected to high-grain diets, can improve tissue resistance. And they do.

When you improve the sodium ring around tumors and diseased tissue, the first thing that happens is that tissue gets better drainage and better circulation. And the cells begin to function normally. And when cells begin to function normally, they do what's normal for cells, they behave like themselves. And that means our tissues are now themselves again. They bring, with normal function, requisite behavior for health, which is resistance to disease, and immunity against extant disease. That's were tissue immunity comes from, and that's where tumor immunities come from: the health of normal tissue.

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