[Unonounaple]

It's called a CONSTITUTION for a reason as well.

Would you want to adopt a constitution you find crap?

[easypokergonj]

For them it's not about being crap or not as such, they're just paranoid that Germany is still after them, and that it will have too much power with the new rules.

[intmarkworkk]

European Union. They're on strike. What's your complaint?

[Poohoppesmase]

I think poor countries are being ungrateful, Germany and France give and have given lots lots of money to the poor EU members

[ImapFidaarram]

Originally posted by C0ckney
i hope the poles wreck the whole thing. They'll just bring it up again and again until it passes. Similar to what happened in Ireland.

[prehighaltitudesjj]

Originally posted by Barnabas
I think poor countries are being ungrateful, Germany and France give and have given lots lots of money to the poor EU members France takes great share of that money. Germany is responsible for that we are poor, and did much to make Poland not sure about its motives and goals. I do not apply that to Merkel, I kind of like her and think she's one of few who actually tries to do some things right.

When it comes to subsidies of various kind, we're getting only 1/4 of what the older members get.
Before and during the entry negotiations, old EU countries acted very egoistically, and now they're getting only a slight taste of the same.

Also, rich countries may give money, but profit as well, having big markets open for their products. Opening our young and unprepared markets for EU products resulted in many old companies being closed and giant unemployment. Of course, now we can make up for this by exporting labour, but it has some disadvantages for us (drainage of intellectual power, and lack of money for social insurances), and anyway it's not Germany or France we should be thankful for that, perhaps Britain, Ireland and Sweden. I'm not saying Poland does not profit from EU. It does. But EU membership costs us as well. And it isn't just about money. I'd like to remind You that most parties in Poland support membership of all european countries, and even Turkey, in EU, though it is not financially good for us.

[CevepBiageCefm]

The union was made possible when France and Germany accepted in the 50ies the scandalous idea that the past was settled once and for all by the second WW. Poland should have been explained that this was a basic requirement for entering the union.

[ChebuRAtoR]

Why then did you want to join the EU, since you did not ignore that Germany was in?

I dont understand your point about the eastern frontier; between 1945 and 1989, the RDA was not part of Germany, and nobody anticipated the brutal end that happened.

[mrPronmaker]

Originally posted by Heresson
Last Conformist, where are You from? Sweden. One of the handful EU-15 countries that didn't put up transitory rules to block labour migration from the new members.

Yet, the plumber still costs like crack and speaks with a Bosnian accent. Poland sucks

[Hpdovoxm]

Originally posted by Wycoff


Maybe Germany needs to explain it to them one more time, starting with a repatriation of Silesia and Pomerania I thought that Silesia and Pomerania were allocated to the West by agrement at Yalta. You can hardly accuse Germany of evil influence against Poland at Yalta.

[yWleIJm4]

The EU should be Germany, France, Benelux + Spain for vacations

[Snweyuag]

Im afraid I dont understand why middle and small Euro countries being concerned about the influence of large ones means Poland is still focused on WW2. If someone were to propose a major constitutional change in the US, like say abolition of the electoral college, you can be damned sure the small, middle and large states would be analyzing its effects on their interests, and folks in South Carolina would be looking to see if more power to California would hurt them. It would hardly mean they were refighting the Civil War.

[InsManKV]

Originally posted by Barnabas
The EU should be Germany, France, Benelux + Spain for vacations And Northern Italy. Long live the Frankish Empire (and Spain for vacations).

[YpbWF5Yo]

Originally posted by Wycoff


Your original post was saying that the West has basically concluded that WW2 and its aftermath settled the issues between Germany and the rest of Europe. If Poland doesn't consider things settled, and if Poland doesn't want to let by-gones be by-gones, then maybe Germany shouldn't accept that either.
In my post I said that it was an understanding between France and Germany that our secular enmity was to be ended. Then Benelux and Italy acknowledge that without Franco-German wars Europe could be initiated. The rest of Europe was not considered at this stage.
It becomes clearer that among the 21 who were added later, a significant number think that they can change the ground on which the union was originally build. This is a very good reason to revert to the original six plus Spain.

[Hofonom]

Europe of the original six + Spain

That would be a real entity, not the joke the present-day EU is.

[XGoFivk7]

Two speed Europe

[EmpokemyMok]

Originally posted by VetLegion


People from the Balkans are also responsible for much crime and unemployment in Sweden, but I think Sweden is too politically correct to admit that, let alone act on it. Something tells me you didn't understand what I wrote.

[RichardHaads]

[Heliosprime]

And you still have to return us chunks of Flanders too.

[EbrsaRynleot]

Originally posted by Heresson
these are the catholic parts of Netherlands, I believe. No, these are the parts of Belgium that were stolen from us.