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Originally posted by KrazyHorse
through diplomacy? http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/americ....ap/index.html What a load of trash. The two most bloody-minded peoples in history have been the Romans and the British. If the Limeys have fallen so far that they'll be willing to sit down with a bunch of South American pinko scum about giving up territory that British soldiers have died for in living memory then I'll become a damn nihilist. If I can't believe in British stubbornness then I might as well stop believing in anything at all. It's easy to discuss things, and politics to do so. Britain won't give up anything however. |
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Originally posted by DRoseDARs
For the uninitiated, why do either country - much less the UK at 8,000 miles away - give two sh*ts about these islands? The Brits care about it because virtually everyone on the island is British and they want to remain part of the UK. The Argentines care for no good reason and in fact are just taught in school that it is part of Argentina. The reality is a Spanish ship stopping in the 1700's and then not coming back doesn't make much of a claim on the islands when another country actually colonized it. |
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Originally posted by Oerdin
The Brits care about it because virtually everyone on the island is British and they want to remain part of the UK. The Argentines care for no good reason and in fact are just taught in school that it is part of Argentina. The reality is a Spanish ship stopping in the 1700's and then not coming back doesn't make much of a claim on the islands when another country actually colonized it. The issue is the english acknowledged the islands belonged to Spain in treaties, and after Argentina became independent, the argentines did colonize the islands, the (argentine) population of the islands was expelled when the english occupied it in 1833, which was pretty much an Act of piracy. Argies have claimed those islands every year since 1833. So it is not as if they have a worse claim than the english, there is a reason why the excuse for keeping the islands is the people who live nowadays want to remain english, while ignoring what happened in the XIX century. Sincerely, I think that altough england may have gotten the islands in a wrong way, they should remain english, since the people there want to remain english, their ancestros have lived for over a century and a half there and they are not guilty of what happened in the XIX century. So my solution would be england keeps the islands, but apologizes to Argentina for taking the islands by force in 1833. But that wont happen, because pigs will fly before the english apologize for their colonialism, and the argentines will continue claiming the islands. By the way, the falklands are rich because the Argentine sea is very rich in fish, the falklands have claimed a huge territory of sea surrounding it, and they sell licenses to fishing companies from china etc to fish in their waters, the argentines obviously see the falklanders as parasites, only 3 thousand people live in those islands, and the fishing ammounts to over 10% of the fishing argentines (40 million people) do |
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By the way, I forgot to mention, according to the Argentina constitution Argentina can not go to war for the islands again, it would be illegal, they modified their constitutions to make it say they claim the islands, but can only get them thru peaceful means.
I mention that because in english tabloids, always twice or 3 times a year there are articles about, omg argentina is going to invade the islands in any moment!! and articles with navy officers saying they are so under funded that they would lose to Argentina if it invaded the islands again. |
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Originally posted by Barnabas
So it is not as if they have a worse claim than the english, You are wrong. The British have a much better claim on the islands due to 1) everyone on the islands (the people who should determine the fate of the islands) want the islands to remain British 2) Possession is 9/10ths of the law and the British have had the islands for 174 years. Get over it. |
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