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Old 08-30-2011, 08:06 PM   #1
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Default A lucky escape for the Magic: The Gathering world champ
http://gizmodo.com/5833787/my-brief-...thering-player

This story sounds mean. It's about a girl judging a boy because he's a nerd (like so many of us!) that she met on OkCupid. But that's the point: Judging people on shallow stuff is human nature, and the magic and absurdity of online dating is how immediately and directly it throws that into relief. One person's Magic is another person's fingernail biting, and no profile in the world is deep enough to account for that. Earlier this month, I came home drunk and made an OKCupid profile. What the hell, I thought. I'm busy, I'm single, and everybody's doing it. Sure, I'd heard some stories, but what was the worst that could happen?
Two weeks into my online dating experiment, OKCupid had broken me down. It was like the online equivalent to hanging out alone in a dark, date-rapey bar. Every time I signed on, I was hit by a barrage of creepy messages. "Dem gurl u so foine, iwud lik veru much for me nd u to be marry n procreate." Or "your legs do look strong." So when I saw an IM from a guy named Jon that said, "You should go out with me " I was relieved. He seemed normal. I gave him my name. "Google away," I said. Then dinner was ready, and I signed off without remembering to do the same.
We met for a drink later that week. Jon was thin and tall, dressed in a hedge fund uniform with pale skin and pierced ears. We started talking about normal stuff—family, work, college. I told him my brother was a gamer. And then he casually mentioned that he played Magic: The Gathering when he was younger.
"Actually," he paused. "I'm the world champion."
I laughed. Oh that's a funny joke! I thought. This guy is funny! But the earnest look on his face told me he wasn't kidding.
I gulped my beer and thought about Magic, that strategic collectible card game involving wizards and spells and other detailed geekery. A long-forgotten fad, like pogs or something. But before I could dig deeper, we had to go. Jon had bought us tickets for a one-man show based on serial killer Jeffrey Dahmer's life story. It was not a particularly romantic evening.
The next day I Googled my date and a wealth of information flowed into my browser. A Wikipedia page! Competition videos! Fanboy forums comparing him to Chuck Norris! This guy isn't just some professional who dabbled in card games at a tender age. He's Jon mother****ing Finkel, the man who is so widely revered in the game of Magic that he's been immortalized in his own playing card.
Just like you're obligated to mention you're divorced or have a kid in your online profile, shouldn't someone also be required to disclose any indisputably geeky world championship titles? But maybe it was a long time ago? We met for round two later that week.
At dinner I got straight down to it. Did he still play? "Yes." Strike one. How often? "I'm preparing for a tournament this weekend." Strike two. Who did he hang out with? "I've met all my best friends through Magic." Strike three. I smiled and nodded and listened. Eventually I even felt a little bit bad that I didn't know **** about the game. Here was a guy who had dedicated a good chunk of his life to mastering Magic, on a date with a girl who can barely play Solitaire. This is what happens, I thought, when you leave things out of your online profile.
I later found out that Jon infiltrated his way into OKCupid dates with at least two other people I sort of know, including one of my co-workers. Mothers, warn your daughters! This could happen to you. You'll think you've found a normal bearded guy with a job, only to end up sharing goat cheese with a guy who takes you to a one-man show based on Jeffrey Dahmer's life story.
Maybe I'm an OKCupid ******* for calling it that way. Maybe I'm shallow for not being able to see past Jon's world title. I'll own that. But there's a larger point here: that judging people on shallow stuff is human nature; one person's Magic is another person's fingernail biting, or sports obsession, or verbal tic. No online dating profile in the world is comprehensive enough to highlight every person's peccadillo, or anticipate the inane biases that each of us lugs around. There's no snapshot in the world that can account for our snap judgments.
So what did I learn? Google the **** out of your next online date. Like, hardcore.
Just think he could have ended up with this shallow, drunken fool.

And yes Mods, I quoted the whole thing (but I put the link first), because she doesn't deserve the hits, it's obviously a troll piece to get hits (and advertising revenue), she's insult this poor guy in a most public manner with no other reason than his hobby, which she hasn't even had to live with.

And the righteous media backlash:

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-501465_1...34-501465.html
http://www.kotaku.com.au/2011/08/aly...rs-online-too/ (same parent company but too long to quote)
http://gamejournos.com/post/95604090...ate-with-magic
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Old 08-30-2011, 08:53 PM   #2
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So, I take it you're a player - Magic, I mean, not IRL...

IMO, the only thing she seems to have done wrong was signing up for that 'service' in the first place!
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Old 08-30-2011, 10:09 PM   #3
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That girl is an idiot. Finkel made loads of cash off magic, and usually shallow girls are golddiggers
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Old 08-30-2011, 10:21 PM   #4
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So instead of going in with an open mind, she judged him on the most shallow of points ever. Wow.
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Old 08-30-2011, 10:31 PM   #5
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and here I am recognizing Finkle's name, immortalized by his Masticore deck and Cursed Scroll deck.

yes I'm a Magic fan, pre-2004 although i enjoy playing the new series on Steam as well.
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Old 08-30-2011, 10:35 PM   #6
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So instead of going in with an open mind, she judged him on the most shallow of points ever. Wow.
Yep. But of course Gordo defends these actions. [rolleyes]
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Old 08-30-2011, 10:45 PM   #7
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Did you guys actually real the quoted text?
Now try reversing the roles - so "he" went on a blind "date" with a "girl" who was the best at some unusual female thing, went on about it all night and then dragged him along to "The Vagina Monologues" - or whatever it's called!
She could have been a lot more scathing and he could have noticed she wasn't interested in the cards - and he could certainly have chosen a better show for a first date. From the refererence to others with similar experiences, the chap certainly seems 'strange', even though he may actually be a poor bloke with poor social skills.
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Old 08-30-2011, 10:47 PM   #8
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So, I take it you're a player - Magic, I mean, not IRL...

IMO, the only thing she seems to have done wrong was signing up for that 'service' in the first place!
No if went out with someone who was famous I wouldn't dump them over something shallow and then post it on the internet for profit. She's a troll. If he was boring, or constantly went on about it I could understand it. But he mentions it once and she googles him then it's over?
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Old 08-31-2011, 01:09 AM   #9
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"OMG, you earned over a quarter million playing card games NERD!"

What an idiot.
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Old 08-31-2011, 03:01 AM   #10
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I was reading this going "bet she made some **** up about some dude". But Jon Finkel actually is one of the best magic players ever to live.
Yeah I dunno what's wrong with this chick. He's probably got an IQ of 150, he's loaded with money, and without a job he has a ton of free time to dedicate to the girl he's dating.

And don't dis his choice in movies, I've had success taking girls to horror flicks. They scream and look away and you're right there to comfort them. Problem was, this chick was more afraid of her date than the movie.
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Old 08-31-2011, 04:22 AM   #11
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I was reading this going "bet she made some **** up about some dude". But Jon Finkel actually is one of the best magic players ever to live.
Yeah I dunno what's wrong with this chick. He's probably got an IQ of 150, he's loaded with money, and without a job he has a ton of free time to dedicate to the girl he's dating.

And don't dis his choice in movies, I've had success taking girls to horror flicks. They scream and look away and you're right there to comfort them. Problem was, this chick was more afraid of her date than the movie.
That's the thing, he has a job. He's apparently a managing partner at the hedge fund Landscape Capital Management. Seems like he's a dude with his life in proper order. He plays Magic in his spare time and has a very good career.
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Old 08-31-2011, 04:55 AM   #12
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Yeah Finkel has both a hedge fund and is a professional poker player. He's a retiree from Magic, although since he's in the Hall of Fame he gets to play at Professional events for free and without qualification.

To put things in perspective, Finkel to magic is like one of the head grandmasters in Chess. The man is incredibly smart and he's also not nearly as dorky looking as a large majority of the players. I've watched him play at major tournaments, and it is like watching Tiger Woods win a major.

This thing went viral on Reddit over the past 2 days, if anyone hasn't seen it-

http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comment...k_me_anything/

and

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Finkel
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Old 08-31-2011, 05:39 AM   #13
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http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2011/08/my...hering-player/

The Australian version has uncensored comments, shocking amount of pure hate, even I nearly feel sorry for her. But she doesn't mind, every comment pays cash.
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Old 08-31-2011, 05:57 AM   #14
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well it is a bit sad isn't it, I'm not knocking the bloke but sheesh what a geek.
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Old 08-31-2011, 07:19 AM   #15
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This thing went viral on Reddit over the past 2 days, if anyone hasn't seen it-

http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comment...k_me_anything/
What a guy.

So Jon, can you help me with my deck? It's in the green deck box on the table...look very closely
(link to a picture of this girl's tits)
I can't say I'd change a thing.
lol
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Old 08-31-2011, 07:47 AM   #16
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Did you guys actually real the quoted text?
Now try reversing the roles - so "he" went on a blind "date" with a "girl" who was the best at some unusual female thing, went on about it all night and then dragged him along to "The Vagina Monologues" - or whatever it's called!
She could have been a lot more scathing and he could have noticed she wasn't interested in the cards - and he could certainly have chosen a better show for a first date. From the refererence to others with similar experiences, the chap certainly seems 'strange', even though he may actually be a poor bloke with poor social skills.
Who knows, if you actually tried engaging with other people's interests you might learn something.

Sure I don't share all my interests with my wife, but by joining in I have done things I would not have otherwise and enjoyed myself.

Of course her wonderful baking also helped lol.
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Old 08-31-2011, 05:52 PM   #17
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From what she says, it was more than just a mention - if there was some other aspects of his life that came up, they sure don't seem to have made an impression!
Just as some women may appear to be attractive, once you spend any time with them, they can seem anything but - similarly I would say the woman didn't find the guy attractive in any way. and, as she doesn't seem to be a 'gold-digger' or 'working girl', his personal wealth, position, etc was irrelevant ..

Seems some of you guys should be dating him, though...
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Old 08-31-2011, 08:21 PM   #18
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Seems she was the one who asked him 3 questions about his playing, and she didn't like his answers, simply because he still played and participated in tournaments.
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Old 08-31-2011, 09:51 PM   #19
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From what she says, it was more than just a mention - if there was some other aspects of his life that came up, they sure don't seem to have made an impression!
Just as some women may appear to be attractive, once you spend any time with them, they can seem anything but - similarly I would say the woman didn't find the guy attractive in any way. and, as she doesn't seem to be a 'gold-digger' or 'working girl', his personal wealth, position, etc was irrelevant ..

Seems some of you guys should be dating him, though...
But like I said (more than once), if you had a bad date with someone with a large online foot print would you write and insulting blog about it, especially if the reason you disliked that person was shallow and silly?

She made it sound like a nightmare for her own 15 minutes of fame, I hope she enjoys it.

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Old 08-31-2011, 10:43 PM   #20
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I should have thought to mention it before - if he's so blinking marvelous, what was HE doing on that dating website?
As for the woman, how much promotion, or whatever, does she do/have? Was she a well known writer or it it a case of this going "viral" amoung the magicateers when it was a (relatively) private comment on her date?

Having read it again, she'd mentioned she's a bit of a geek, went on two dates (so she'd obviously felt it worth following up on), made mention of while he wasn't her type, he may be someone else's 'magic'.
Indeed, the whole thing is like a bit of a tongue in cheek, piss take against herself and on-line dating, rather than the bloke.
I honestly don't think you guys can have read it properly...
About the worst things she said was he was a 'magic' world champion, had questionable taste in 'first date' entertainment and had also hit on a couple of her friends who were also on that dating site.
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