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RalfDweflywex 12-04-2011 09:04 AM

Auto detail Q
 
So I detailed my car yesterday. I gave it a good clay bar all around, applied some turtlewax ice synthetic paste polish, and then applied a coat of Mother's Carnauba Cleaner wax. My question is now what to do in a month or two. The weather here is very hard on my car. It rains here about once per week and it can rain very violently, followed by the sun coming out and baking water residue onto the car.

I know that the clay bar isn't something to use all the time, but what should I do in two months when the wax has more or less come off and water isn't beading on the car anymore? Do I need to go back to the clay bar and start over, or can I just apply another coat of wax on top? The reason I ask is because in a couple of months when I wash the car I will be able to feel the dirt and grime that the wash misses and I'm wary of applying a new coat of wax on the car that could seal in the dirt/grime.

StitlyDute 12-04-2011 09:10 AM

Dont mix products, stay with same brand and their recommendations. Right now you have a cleaner wax that cleans and waxes the car, yet you used it to clean off POS synthetic wax that you applied earlier. Carnuba is a natural substance found in nature and is used to make car wax, and Turtle synthetic wax is made in a lab.


Wash the car once a week. Wax it once a month. Claybar it once every 3-6 months. Use same brand wax. Dont mix Carnuba with Synthetic.

StitlyDute 12-04-2011 09:20 AM

P.S.

If you want the best wax and dont mind paying extra, get your self Detailer’s Pro Series or P21S Carnauba Wax.

FliveGell 12-04-2011 10:24 AM

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So I detailed my car yesterday. I gave it a good clay bar all around, applied some turtlewax ice synthetic paste polish, and then applied a coat of Mother's Carnauba Cleaner wax. My question is now what to do in a month or two. The weather here is very hard on my car. It rains here about once per week and it can rain very violently, followed by the sun coming out and baking water residue onto the car.

I know that the clay bar isn't something to use all the time, but what should I do in two months when the wax has more or less come off and water isn't beading on the car anymore? Do I need to go back to the clay bar and start over, or can I just apply another coat of wax on top? The reason I ask is because in a couple of months when I wash the car I will be able to feel the dirt and grime that the wash misses and I'm wary of applying a new coat of wax on the car that could seal in the dirt/grime.
You should clay the car every few months anyway.

I would recommend claying the car, and then applying a synthetic wax product, such as meguiar's techwax 2.0. These synthetic sealants have pretty much surpassed anything you can get from Carnauba. They are easier to apply, and last much longer.

After putting 2 coats of the wax on, you can use something like Meguiars Ultra Quick Detailer to make the water bead even better, as it creates a highly hydrophobic polymer film when it cures.

MyOwnStyle 12-04-2011 11:14 AM

Before claying a car wash it with dish soap. this will disolve old grease, and wax already on the car so you can apply a fresh coat.

shenacatro 12-04-2011 12:15 PM

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Before claying a car wash it with dish soap. this will disolve old grease, and wax already on the car so you can apply a fresh coat.
Yes and do a lovely job of speeding up oxidisation......

Do not use dishwashing soap on anything but dishes!

MyOwnStyle 12-04-2011 08:32 PM

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Yes and do a lovely job of speeding up oxidisation......

Do not use dishwashing soap on anything but dishes!
It won't hurt anything as long as you don't let it sit for a long time without applying wax again. Most detail shops wash with dish soap because there isn't anything else really that will do the same job for the same price.

It strips the car of all grease, dirt, old wax, and everything else leaving completely un protected paint behind for you to clean and wax again.

orapope 12-04-2011 08:47 PM

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Most detail shops wash with dish soap because there isn't anything else really that will do the same job for the same price.
Then they are bad shops... [no]

MyOwnStyle 12-04-2011 09:41 PM

Dish soaps do NOT hurt paint. They are not abrasive. Dish Detergents will(dish washing machine soap)

Dish Soap = Dawn. Its a chemical cleaner. Its not strong enough to damage paint, clear coat, and can't even damage some paint sealents. But what it WILL do is get rid of grease, and Wax is one of those. Dawn won't damage the paint. It would if left to sit in the sun and not washed off before it dries.

Typical methods detail shops use.

Clean with Dawn/water
rinse
use clay bar with lubricant
use blah...blah whatever other polish/wax process you want.

I know people who have done this for years on their cars. Decades even. And guess what the paint is holding up just fine, looks factory fresh too. I know guys who work in body and detail shops some of them use dawn, others don't. But none say dawn is bad for a car.

When do I use it? When I want to apply a FRESH coat of wax for the season, and just before winter, aka about twice a year. This is on a two stage paint finsih, aka base/clear.

StitlyDute 12-04-2011 11:46 PM

Dish soap is safe, it doesnt even hurt your skin and you can use it 10 times a day. So its very safe on paint.

The down side, dish washing soap actually accelerates the oxidation process when used regularly.

So once in a or twice a year is ok.


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