[seicslybearee]

But why should be assume that they would just completely ignore our planet. out of all the possible planets that they have come across, not to mention that out of the other planets and moons in our solar system alone, this one is covered in lights, surrounded by satellites, and covered by organisms larger than microbes and bacteria, which we currently believe most of the other planets in the universe are populated by, that they would just ignore us completely because we arent up to par with them. It would be a different situation if for some reason they just didnt happen to notice us on the way by, but i have a hard time imagining that any intelligent species that managed to pass close enough to our planet to notice the lights on it would not stop by to see just what it was they had come across.

[gardeniyas]

But why should be assume that they would just completely ignore our planet. out of all the possible planets that they have come across, not to mention that out of the other planets and moons in our solar system alone, this one is covered in lights, surrounded by satellites, and covered by organisms larger than microbes and bacteria, which we currently believe most of the other planets in the universe are populated by, that they would just ignore us completely because we arent up to par with them. It would be a different situation if for some reason they just didnt happen to notice us on the way by, but i have a hard time imagining that any intelligent species that managed to pass close enough to our planet to notice the lights on it would not stop by to see just what it was they had come across.

I never said they would ignore our planet at all. Did I say that anywhere?

They would treat us the same way we treat monkeys when watching them eat a banana. Laugh at it for amusement for a minute and then move on. Yeah they would see the satellites and look and them and go oh yeah my 1 month year old nephew just built some satellites as well isn't that cute.

[letmelogin]

Why does all 'UFO' footage look like it was shot with a '60's 8mm camera

[Joesred]

Indeed. Still waiting for 1920x1080p HD UFO footage.

Where the heck is it?

[seicslybearee]

most people dont run around with hd camcorders in hand ready to go, but they do all run around with their cell phones and those stupid little flip camcorders. Honestly I think most people would be more likely to judge a HD video of a ufo or bigfoot than a cell phone recording.

[mirzaterak]

I never said they would ignore our planet at all. Did I say that anywhere?

They would treat us the same way we treat monkeys when watching them eat a banana. Laugh at it for amusement for a minute and then move on. Yeah they would see the satellites and look and them and go oh yeah my 1 month year old nephew just built some satellites as well isn't that cute.

That of course assumes aliens are arrogant jackasses with the intelligence of a 6 year old...

[flueftArete]

Indeed. Still waiting for 1920x1080p HD UFO footage.

Where the heck is it?

The governments have all that.

[Nemerov]

That of course assumes aliens are arrogant jackasses with the intelligence of a 6 year old...

Indeed.. hopefully if they are interstellar, they have evolved beyond acting like EarthAtGates.. [thumbup]

[gardeniyas]

That of course assumes aliens are arrogant jackasses with the intelligence of a 6 year old...

Indeed.. hopefully if they are interstellar, they have evolved beyond acting like EarthAtGates.. [thumbup]

It's pretty sad how you guys are not intelligent enough to understand the concept. It's borderline embarrassing.

How about we let Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson explain:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTXnC7fVqpw

You can view the entire thing here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAD25...eature=related

If you still don't understand, please never reply to me.

[Zavdpacq]

E@G, you're the last person to accuss others of arrogance, shame you don't realise it.

Should Aliens be visiting Earth*, it is certainly possible that more than one civilisation may be doing so. This may explain the variations reported.
I would suggest that in this case, they are likely to have come across other life forms and have developed protocols for observing and interacting. Perhaps they have a different way of interacting within their societies and 'we' have a unique social system that they are still coming to terms with.
Then again, there may be 'teasers', as mentioned in 'Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy' by Douglas Adams, who are having some fun teasing us.

*I'm not convinced Aliens have, and are, visiting but there have been some strange things that con't be completely explained away - doesn't rule out mundane causes that haven't been found yet, though.

[gardeniyas]

E@G, you're the last person to accuss others of arrogance, shame you don't realise it.

Pfft, that isn't the point. Way to completely avoid addressing the issue and the point I am making with an unnecessary statement.

[tousuarshatly]

Pfft, that isn't the point. Way to completely avoid addressing the issue and the point I am making with an unnecessary statement.

Don't worry about him he has trouble with even the most basic of concepts. http://futuremark.yougamers.com/foru...90#post1509690

[CitsMoise17]

Pfft, that isn't the point. Way to completely avoid addressing the issue and the point I am making with an unnecessary statement.

You're ignoring the fact that you are basing everything you appear to believe from one mans theory, did you hear that? THEORY! So stop talking about Dr Tyson like he some kind of ultimate authority on the subject, he isn't, he's guessing like everyone else, putting forward a possible scenario, you just show great naivety to put all your eggs in one basket and taking what he says as the gospel truth, it's merely one mans musings.

You should really be more open minded, even Dr Tyson is open to other possibilities, he doesn't jump to conclusions, he's putting forward ideas. Not facts.

[Zavdpacq]

Don't worry about him he has trouble with even the most basic of concepts. http://futuremark.yougamers.com/foru...90#post1509690

A basic* concept you were unable to comment on, even when asked... [rolleyes]


*Which actually is anything but - I'll ask you to explain it in that post, as you find it so 'basic'

[Zavdpacq]

Pfft, that isn't the point. Way to completely avoid addressing the issue and the point I am making with an unnecessary statement.

Sorry, I thought that was the correct manner, judging from your normal posts.
Which issue would you like me to address, your arrogance, whether the UFO is 'real, whether it's a fake or whatever?

[gardeniyas]

You're ignoring the fact that you are basing everything you appear to believe from one mans theory, did you hear that? THEORY! So stop talking about Dr Tyson like he some kind of ultimate authority on the subject, he isn't, he's guessing like everyone else, putting forward a possible scenario, you just show great naivety to put all your eggs in one basket and taking what he says as the gospel truth, it's merely one mans musings.

You should really be more open minded, even Dr Tyson is open to other possibilities, he doesn't jump to conclusions, he's putting forward ideas. Not facts.

You are not very intelligent, are you?

Considering you are using the word THEORY wrong, you should probably re-type your post. A theory is a body of evidence. So if Dr. Tyson is putting forth a body of evidence in support of his conclusion then he is correct and you just ate your own words.

Anyways, his scenario and ideas are most likely because they based upon his knowledge and expertise. He is an expert, you are not. His logic is based upon the scientific foundation and understanding of the universe. Beyond that, he is infinitely smarter than you can ever hope to be.

[RobertLS]

You are not very intelligent, are you?

Considering you are using the word THEORY wrong, you should probably re-type your post. A theory is a body of evidence. So if Dr. Tyson is putting forth a body of evidence in support of his conclusion then he is correct and you just ate your own words.

Anyways, his scenario and ideas are most likely because they based upon his knowledge and expertise. He is an expert, you are not. His logic is based upon the scientific foundation and understanding of the universe. Beyond that, he is infinitely smarter than you can ever hope to be.

How smart we really are?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PpMdTmVMpo

[paralelogram]

You are not very intelligent, are you?

Considering you are using the word THEORY wrong, you should probably re-type your post. A theory is a body of evidence. So if Dr. Tyson is putting forth a body of evidence in support of his conclusion then he is correct and you just ate your own words.

Anyways, his scenario and ideas are most likely because they based upon his knowledge and expertise. He is an expert, you are not. His logic is based upon the scientific foundation and understanding of the universe. Beyond that, he is infinitely smarter than you can ever hope to be.

Stop trying so hard to argue, it really enhances your ignorance. "Theory" is a proposed explanation whose status is still conjectural. And by it's very nature seldom has a 'body of evidence' in support of the conclusion, but rather a hit of unrelated/unproven(at the time) of instances being presented in a theoretical manner.

Now, before you bust a hemorrhoid, yes theory is usually formed based on some form of evidence with a varying degree of distance from absolute truth. But to have something based on preceived evidence and something based on "a body of evidence" is worlds apart. And here with this topic and surrounding context, to claim that his use of theory should be used within your definition is simply wrong. He is in fact(and not theory) using it correctly.

Having said all that, the 'UFO over Jerusalem' has already been proven a hoax, well beyond a shadow of doubt. I'm not about to explain it here, or link to where and how, but just know it has been digested and came out as notihng more than a well played hoax supported with actual/factual evidence..

[Joesred]

Getting back to the UFO in Jerusalem, have any more videos/perspectives of this surfaced? Considering there are around a million people in the area I would imagine there would be a few more than just the four (which already is impressive in itself)I've seen, not to mention highly trained IDF soldiers.

The only one I could find was the related incident in Utah around the same date.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4X8AzsOZbkg

[gardeniyas]

Stop trying so hard to argue, it really enhances your ignorance. "Theory" is a proposed explanation whose status is still conjectural. And by it's very nature seldom has a 'body of evidence' in support of the conclusion, but rather a hit of unrelated/unproven(at the time) of instances being presented in a theoretical manner.

Now, before you bust a hemorrhoid, yes theory is usually formed based on some form of evidence with a varying degree of distance from absolute truth. But to have something based on preceived evidence and something based on "a body of evidence" is worlds apart. And here with this topic and surrounding context, to claim that his use of theory should be used within your definition is simply wrong. He is in fact(and not theory) using it correctly.

Having said all that, the 'UFO over Jerusalem' has already been proven a hoax, well beyond a shadow of doubt. I'm not about to explain it here, or link to where and how, but just know it has been digested and came out as notihng more than a well played hoax supported with actual/factual evidence..

He is not. Especially when looking at it from scientific terms. I'm done replying to you plebs. You obviously cannot understand basic scientific terms, therefore concepts beyond that are entirely too complicated for this lot. Especially we know this from the junk icemanchilled fills up the display adapters forum with.

As for the last part...of course. I don't know why it was ever in question that it was a hoax...it is blatantly obvious.