[TouccuraLar]

You really insist on showing your ass, don't you?

[intisgunkas]

Edit: n/m, didn't read

[G8whlTAe]

I made no comment about Blacks. Only East Asians. Only a handfull of Blacks would ever be in the top scoring slot this is plain as day so I never touched the subject. However a greater % of East Asians should be top scoring compared to Whites. The fact whites have higher admision rate clearly demonstrates bias against East Asians.

[immewaycypef]

How clever.

[posimoka]

Don't understand the point of the table... how exactly does it show discrimination?
One possible explanation is that all Asians apply to higher education while only some blacks (and those most apt too) do. There are other possible explanations,
of course. You can't claim Asians are discriminated just based on those figures.
There can be a lot of self-selection going on.

[TornadoPD]

What about intangibles? Although I doubt medical schools care about that in applicants, law and business schools definitely consider other things besides grades and test scores.

[voksveta]

jobs the applicant had, participation in extracurricular activities, the essay, experiences, etc. etc.

[truportodfa]

Well, no, I would expect not. With a doctor you expect someone to just do the job well. You don't need a well-rounded person like you would with a lawyer or a banker.

[Thydaysuh]

You know why this is, Heraclitus? There are still Blacks alive today who were flat out not accepted at most colleges in this country.

Take this story that runs TODAY:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/educati...y-degree_N.htm

It was the summer of 1950, and Mary Jean Price, the salutatorian of Lincoln High School in Springfield, Mo., hoped to enroll at a hometown college and become a teacher.

But this was four years before Brown v. Board of Education, the 1954 U.S. Supreme Court decision that declared denying black children equal educational opportunities was unconstitutional.

At 18, Price was, school records show, the first black student ever to apply to Southwest Missouri State College (now Missouri State University) in Springfield, was denied admission. "What are you going to do if a negro student presents himself for registration in the fall quarter?" wrote J. W. Jones, then president of Northwest Missouri State College (now University) in Maryville, Mo., to other state college presidents.

The test came when Walls [Price's name now; she's married since then] applied to Southwest Missouri State.

[nryFBa9i]

I would like to see overall course completion percentages for the actual uptake.

That depends significantly on whether they're male or female... Here's some interesting stats but the images are so small for some reason...



Interestingly... so the top schools have very high graduation rates...



comparison of whites/blacks at some top schools...



and the change over the last several years at some top schools...



Source: http://www.jbhe.com/features/50_blac...gradrates.html

[BenWired306]

And Asians should be punished why?

Asians

I mean really? Can we all agree on this one?

slanty-eyed, side-ways vagina, peeing in cokes... who needs them?

[Mearticbaibre]

Asians

I mean really? Can we all agree on this one?

slanty-eyed, side-ways vagina, peeing in cokes... who needs them?

And Mexicans should be rewarded for the past suffering of Blacks why?

[bettingonosports]

The asian numbers look badly skewed. AA can explain black and hispanic numbers theoretically -- Is there any similar easy explanation for the asian numbers?

I wonder how much of that is because what I said earlier that Asians tend to make crappy 'people'. I know it's a stereotype but there's enough truth in it and it may actually affect applicants. Colleges look at other things besides SAT scores and high school grades; they want to see a complete person who was involved in activities and who can sell themselves in an essay. It's obviously not always true but there are a lot of Asian kids that are lacking in these areas.

and by the way,

The Espenshade/Radford study draws from a new data set, the National Study of College Experience (NSCE), which was gathered from eight highly competitive public and private colleges and universities (entering freshmen SAT scores: 1360) That's cool cause that is exactly what my SAT score was. 1360. Should've gone ivy league

[Gromiaaborn]

I keep hoping this thread is a joke, and my hopes keep getting crushed.

[jPNy2BP5]

albert, do you want to clarify this incredibly racist statement?

What this wasn't sufficient for you?

I wonder how much of that is because what I said earlier that Asians tend to make crappy 'people'. I know it's a stereotype but there's enough truth in it and it may actually affect applicants. Colleges look at other things besides SAT scores and high school grades; they want to see a complete person who was involved in activities and who can sell themselves in an essay. It's obviously not always true but there are a lot of Asian kids that are lacking in these areas.

[vulikox]

Asians

I mean really? Can we all agree on this one?

slanty-eyed, side-ways vagina, peeing in cokes... who needs them?

My daughter and I disagree with you whole-heartedly.

[abossakon]

I may be rude in brashly stating inconveinent facts and I am probably even more known for considering explanations , which many consider to be unkind, for the behaviour and success (or lack of thereof) of some social groups (women, some racial groups, the poor, ect.).

But I don't recall ever calling *any* of them bad people. And indeed I don't think they are. Perhaps you wanted to say East Asians have somewhat poorer people skills, but that dosen't really matter. I think you should apologize since saying some group of people make "crappy people" is indeed nearly universaly understood as a value judgmenet. A very negative one at that.

If you meant it as a value judgement, which I think and hope you didn't, **** you. That's really really wrong. Remember I get pissed of by tards who implicitly equate inteligence with value as a human being and they probably don't even think those things through.

[carfAball]

Don't do this. It was obviously a joke. Peeing in cokes, come on? You believe that?

I gathered it was a joke. I'm just reminding people that sometimes the internet is read by more than just white males.

[kSmica]

If you meant it as a value judgement, which I think and hope you didn't, **** you. That's really really wrong. Remember I get pissed of by tards who implicitly equate inteligence with value as a human being and they probably don't even think those things through.

Oh and , you've done this plenty of times! Go back and read some of your threads and think things through.

[Romobencience]

Look even this smiley is a racist stereotype about Asians (it just needs to be yellow):