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Old 02-03-2009, 11:34 PM   #1
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Default The midwest sucks - How is Toronto this time of year?
I was thinking of burning a few vacations days and doing something with the wife this weekend.

The closest destination of any interest would be Toronto. Is Canada any more interesting than this craphole known as Ohio? It's only an 8 hour drive.
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Old 02-03-2009, 11:37 PM   #2
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I was thinking of burning a few vacations days and doing something with the wife this weekend.

The closest destination of any interest would be Toronto. Is Canada any more interesting than this craphole known as Ohio? It's only an 8 hour drive.
toronto weather is basically like the midwest that said, it's a fantastic city to visit. i would definately recommend it. you might consider montreal, it's got a lot more european feel and outrageously hot girls.
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Old 02-03-2009, 11:44 PM   #3
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Toronto is a great place to visit, even more if you're interested in hockey. What I liked most was the CN Tower and the Hockey Hall of Fame!

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Old 02-03-2009, 11:46 PM   #4
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Toronto is a great place to visit, even more if you're interested in hockey. What I liked most was the CN Tower and the Hockey Hall of Fame!

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They don't let you in the country if you don't like hockey. Toronto is a very nice city to visit. A lot to do.
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Old 02-04-2009, 01:02 AM   #5
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Ok, the wife's sold on the idea. I'm gonna take the small bonus they're throwing at us this Friday and get a hotel for 4 nights.

Cambridge Suites Hotel looks pretty decent for $93/night. I'm wary of going to cheap hotels anymore. The last few times I've stayed in a cheap $50 hotel it was... bad. Bad area, bad hotel, just bad. Unless anyone knows offhand some decent hotels that could save me $50.

I've never had the chance to go to a real city. The biggest for me was going to Baltimore for Otakon.. and that sucked balls.


Now I just need to plan out 5 days in Toronto. It'll be nice being in a city that has crap to do. Hit up a few clubs, try some good ethnic cuisine, and check out that Eaton Center or whatever. Sounds fun. Probably watch Watchmen at an Imax theater as well. I haven't been to one in a decade. Thinking about how boring it is where I live it's no wonder there's so many welfare families. Once you get to the age where playing with worms is no longer enjoyable you have 3 options: Sex, drugs, or alcohol. If you're really bored you can mix and match.
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Old 02-04-2009, 01:04 AM   #6
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Ok, the wife's sold on the idea. I'm gonna take the small bonus they're throwing at us this Friday and get a hotel for 4 nights.

Cambridge Suites Hotel looks pretty decent for $93/night. I'm wary of going to cheap hotels anymore. The last few times I've stayed in a cheap $50 hotel it was... bad. Bad area, bad hotel, just bad. Unless anyone knows offhand some decent hotels that could save me $50.

I've never had the chance to go to a real city. The biggest for me was going to Baltimore for Otakon.. and that sucked balls.


Now I just need to plan out 5 days in Toronto. It'll be nice being in a city that has crap to do. Hit up a few clubs, try some good ethnic cuisine, and check out that Eaton Center or whatever. Sounds fun. Probably watch Watchmen at an Imax theater as well. I haven't been to one in a decade. Thinking about how boring it is where I live it's no wonder there's so many welfare families. Once you get to the age where playing with worms is no longer enjoyable you have 3 options: Sex, drugs, or alcohol. If you're really bored you can mix and match.
Since your wifey likes gay bars, you could look into that.

The gay district of T-Dot is larger than the city limits!!!
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Old 02-04-2009, 01:09 AM   #7
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You know, I used to think the Midwest sucked (Indiana).

Now I live in DC. The area blows much, much worse. I miss the ability to say "there's nothing to do but realize how beautiful nature is." I miss the sound of silence.
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Old 02-04-2009, 01:34 AM   #8
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what happened to the cruise?
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Old 02-04-2009, 01:36 AM   #9
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You know, I used to think the Midwest sucked (Indiana).

Now I live in DC. The area blows much, much worse. I miss the ability to say "there's nothing to do but realize how beautiful nature is." I miss the sound of silence.
what??? imo, D.C. has more to do than most cities I can think of. Also, Virginia and Maryland are only a short drive from D.C. and there are some really beautiful natural areas including national parks.

also, rainwind, I agree, the Midwest does suck (mostly) I went to college in both Indiana and Ohio, actually. Ohio and Indiana aren't as bad as Iowa, Nebraska, Kansas Oklahoma, though. Imo, those states are as boring as it gets.
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Old 02-04-2009, 01:56 AM   #10
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You know, I used to think the Midwest sucked (Indiana).

Now I live in DC. The area blows much, much worse. I miss the ability to say "there's nothing to do but realize how beautiful nature is." I miss the sound of silence.
DC is the closest thing I have seen to a melting pot in my travels throughout the US and Europe.

DC has a ton of colleges and a ton of ghettos. Walking around the bar strip on a week-end night, you will see khaki-clad, preppy people in between baggy-pants urban people (not necessarily ALL black/white). There are tons of bars/clubs (even a hookah bar or two) with a variety of music/themes... right next door to each other.

Even if there is partitioning amongst the music groups, all sides intermingle at those GIANT sliced pizza shops.

It is so interesting to watch the interaction between these people, no one seems really out-of-place or uncomfortable.

Perhaps you are just used to the vast diversity and are no longer enthralled by it like I am.
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Old 02-04-2009, 02:06 AM   #11
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You know, I used to think the Midwest sucked (Indiana).

Now I live in DC. The area blows much, much worse. I miss the ability to say "there's nothing to do but realize how beautiful nature is." I miss the sound of silence.
If there's one thing I would miss its nature and the quiet atmosphere. I don't remember the last time I heard of a car theft, a break-in, or a murder. I might make this a yearly, or twice a year, sort of thing. Instead of taking a big vacation just take a trip to somewhere 10 hours or less away (or maybe take the Amtrak) and grab a hotel for a few days. It's cheap too. Unless we do something really extravagant we can have an entire week away from home for less than $1,000.

what happened to the cruise?
We've put it off for the time being. Since she got canned she's looking into college. Our time away from college (assuming she gets in) and what not isn't the same, so doing a cruise right now won't work. I guess I can live without my cruise for a year or two. Originally my vacation was scheduled for the 27th of this month through april 5th. But she'll be starting classes on the 28th if all goes well.

But I have the entire coming week off from classes. This is the last week, and next term begins on the 16th, so its the perfect time to squeeze in a week of fun, but not enough time to get anything like a flight+cruise planned. Plus passports, etc.


It'll be nice to go to a city where their shopping mall has more people in it during the day than the entire population of the city I live in.
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Old 02-04-2009, 02:16 AM   #12
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what??? imo, D.C. has more to do than most cities I can think of. Also, Virginia and Maryland are only a short drive from D.C. and there are some really beautiful natural areas including national parks.

also, rainwind, I agree, the Midwest does suck (mostly) I went to college in both Indiana and Ohio, actually. Ohio and Indiana aren't as bad as Iowa, Nebraska, Kansas Oklahoma, though. Imo, those states are as boring as it gets.
I don't care about all their is to do in the DC area.

The people are ****sticks, and I want to actually be able to go to the country and not hear a car for 20 minutes. Not to some retarded ass national park in the middle of a bunch of yuppie ****ers slugging down Charbucks like it's the greatest invention since sliced bread, then complaining because their life is just "soooooooooooooo complicated."

I like simple life. The DC area sucks, period. The people have no idea how to enjoy the simple pleasures of life, complain about what they don't have, and what they do have, the don't appreciate it. Ungrateful, uncultured, negative pieces of ****.


Perhaps you are just used to the vast diversity and are no longer enthralled by it like I am. Of course I'm not enthralled by it any more; I realize it (like most BS in this town) only goes skin deep. Diversity exists in DC because everyone walks around with a "kiss my ass" attitude while being too afraid to speak their own mind. Just like politicians, actually. DC has got to be the biggest suck-fest of a circle-jerk I have ever seen.
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Old 02-04-2009, 02:52 AM   #13
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DC has got to be the biggest suck-fest of a circle-jerk I have ever seen.
If my experience on the DC to Baltimore train I took is any indication of the rest of DC... those people were the biggest bunch of assholes I've ever met. EVERYONE on the train was a giant douchebag. Attached to their goddamned blackberry like it was lifesupport. Even the train employees were dickholes. We ask one simple question, because we're completely new to the area, and she's like "DO I LOOK LIKE THE CONDUCTOR?".

They were the unfriendliest bunch of people I've ever met. How do people go through life not being able to smile at another human being? Take your big city wages, and your big city attitude, and shove it up your big city ass. Must be something people from smaller cities notice. When my wife went to Canada for work she was staying in a small town and they said everyone from Toronto is an *******. Big city life must do something to people.

Actually, now that I think back on it, our trip to Baltimore made us never want to move. The only part of the trip that didn't suck was my discovery of a 7-11 a block from the hotel. My first slurpee in.. well.. forever. I have 3 collectible cups from that trip. And a few aluminum slurpee straws.
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Old 02-04-2009, 03:01 AM   #14
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DUDE! Aluminum Slupee straws? Cool! [thumbup]

Yeah, needless to say, I hate it out here and do what I can just to make people uncomfortable. You should see the looks I get when people cut in front of me to get onto a train or something.

I have a theory. . .people out here live to work. They don't work to live.
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Old 02-04-2009, 04:50 AM   #15
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People omSouthern Ontario aren't always the best,I've heard they're frendlier in Toronto than in London Ontario where I've spent a fair bot of time the last two years.

I know what you mean though,I'm from a small town and notice the difference in the way people act too.

TBH I think it has something to do with southern Ontarians being stupid drunk most of the time.
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Old 02-04-2009, 04:52 AM   #16
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TBH I think it has something to do with southern Ontarians being stupid drunk most of the time.
I always put it down to their close proximity to the states.
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Old 02-04-2009, 05:09 AM   #17
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I always put it down to their close proximity to the states.
Actually it couldn't be farther fropm the truth,I was amazed at how mysogonistic and rude Canadians were.

When eating at resteraunts teh servers generally tend to look directly only at me as if I were going to order what my wife is going to eat,when in stores buying things it's the same even when my wife wa paying,when we picked up her allergy medication the pharmacist looked at me and told me how to use it rather than her.

You can imagine her suprprise when we crossed the border and people started treating her like a person who is capable of making her own descisions too.

Also I've lived close to Detroit and while it is a more dangerous place people were still on average MORE POLITE and less likely to try and start fights or verbally accost you,or harrass women.

People are generally more polite here in the U.S. in my opinion,and my wife who's a lifelong Canadian agree's.
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Old 03-03-2009, 08:40 AM   #18
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It's not a bad city, go do some ice skating by the lake, it's fun
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Old 03-03-2009, 09:55 AM   #19
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what??? imo, D.C. has more to do than most cities I can think of. Also, Virginia and Maryland are only a short drive from D.C. and there are some really beautiful natural areas including national parks.

also, rainwind, I agree, the Midwest does suck (mostly) I went to college in both Indiana and Ohio, actually. Ohio and Indiana aren't as bad as Iowa, Nebraska, Kansas Oklahoma, though. Imo, those states are as boring as it gets.
Boring? Probably, but it sure is peaceful!
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Old 03-03-2009, 03:27 PM   #20
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Boring? Probably, but it sure is peaceful!
yeah, those states, including nebraska, have some really nice qualities. The people tend to be really nice and down to earth...but it is a bit boring in some ways, even the food tends to be bland.
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