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Old 12-14-2007, 05:25 PM   #1
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Default Teh Pope sez: Action must be based on firm evidence and not on dubious ideology.


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Teh Pope can obviously recognise a rival religion when he sees one.
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Old 12-14-2007, 05:31 PM   #2
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That's absolutely priceless.

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Old 12-14-2007, 06:57 PM   #3
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There were four country churches in a small Texas town: The Presbyterian Church, the Baptist Church, the Methodist Church and the Catholic Church. Each church was overrun with pesky squirrels.

One day, the Presbyterian Church called a meeting to decide what to do about the squirrels. After much prayer and consideration they determined that the squirrels were predestined to be there and they shouldn't interfere with God's divine will.

In the Baptist Church the squirrels had taken up habitation in the baptistery. The deacons met and decided to put a cover on the baptistery and drown the squirrels in it. The squirrels escaped somehow and there were twice as many there the next week.

The Methodist Church got together and decided that they were not in a position to harm any of God's creation. So, they humanely trapped the Squirrels and set them free a few miles outside of town. Three days later, the squirrels were back.

But -- The Catholic Church came up with the best and most effective solution. They baptized the squirrels and registered them as members of the church. Now they only see them on Christmas and Easter.
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Old 12-14-2007, 07:34 PM   #4
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Pope Benedict XVI has launched a surprise attack on climate change prophets of doom, warning them that any solutions to global warming must be based on firm evidence and not on dubious ideology. A True CLASSIC!
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Old 12-14-2007, 07:38 PM   #5
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Nice to see the pope saying we should only follow confirmed science. that's not what he said

though "dubious ideology" is my new catch phrase.
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Old 12-14-2007, 08:00 PM   #6
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Originally posted by Cort Haus
Teh Pope can obviously recognise a rival religion when he sees one.
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Old 12-14-2007, 08:08 PM   #7
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That was the best gut laugh I've had in days.

I think we've found a solution to the Hollywood writer's strike. The pope can churn out good material. Hire him.
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Old 12-14-2007, 08:39 PM   #8
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Teh Pope can obviously recognise a rival religion when he sees one. Court Haus just made my sig.

Thanks man.
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Old 12-14-2007, 08:46 PM   #9
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Originally posted by germanos


from the article:
while some concerns may be valid it was vital that the international community based its policies on science rather than the dogma

awesome what is awesome?

seriously.
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Old 12-14-2007, 08:56 PM   #10
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I love the religionistas pretending they don't see the humor. It's cute.

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Old 12-14-2007, 09:42 PM   #11
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Originally posted by Arrian
I love the religionistas pretending they don't see the humor. It's cute.

-Arrian cause of course youd expect religionists to consider "Temperature change is caused by GHG emissions" in the same category, epistimelogically, as "There exists an omnipotent being in the universe" or whatever.

Sheesh.

What I dont know is why isnt the Pope more focused on the ideologues who want to deny the existence of anthropogenic GW?
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Old 12-14-2007, 09:47 PM   #12
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Originally posted by lord of the mark


cause of course youd expect religionists to consider "Temperature change is caused by GHG emissions" in the same category, epistimelogically, as "There exists an omnipotent being in the universe" or whatever.

Sheesh.

What I dont know is why isnt the Pope more focused on the ideologues who want to deny the existence of anthropogenic GW? Well, one would expect consistency when it comes to wanting "firm evidence" and being wary of "dubious ideology" actually, LotM.

My post was specifically in response to at least two "what's so funny?" posts from believers. If you can't figure out why it's funny, man, I dunno what to do with you.

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Old 12-14-2007, 09:54 PM   #13
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Originally posted by Arrian


Well, one would expect consistency when it comes to wanting "firm evidence" and being wary of "dubious ideology" actually, LotM.
Ive read some of the IPCC reports, and theyre based on what evidence is available.

We cant wait for proof of exactly what the temp is going to reach under given GHG emissions scenarios. By the time we have that, we will have done things with far reaching consequences.

Indeed, that is where more of the irony lies, IMO. The Pope should read Pascal, perhaps.
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Old 12-14-2007, 09:57 PM   #14
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Old 12-14-2007, 10:00 PM   #15
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Originally posted by Arrian
Oh, I have an idea. But I don't want to get nasty, so I'll leave it be.

-Arrian "OMG, the atheists are attacking us for being a religion, what irony, thats so funny?"

"wheres the humor?"

"OMG, they dont see the humor, LOL"

Look, obviously religionists consider that they HAVE looked at appropriate evidence. Anti-religionists think they havent.

Its quite natural for anti-religionists to disagree with religionists. Its not very reasonable to expect them to see the humor in something based on the assumption that their evidence is not appropriate.
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Old 12-14-2007, 10:02 PM   #16
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I said I was going to leave it be, and oddly enough I actually meant it. I've had my laugh, and have no desire to get into a debate with you over this.

-Arrian
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Old 12-14-2007, 10:07 PM   #17
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Originally posted by Lorizael


I would tend to disagree, based on the idea that even religionists say they rely on faith and not evidence when it comes to belief in supernatural entities. QFT
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Old 12-14-2007, 10:28 PM   #18
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This is certainly cute, but I don't think the irony is as strong as some claim here. The religionists have a valid defense, IMO (the difference between religion and science). The only way to ignore that defense is to assume a priori that the religionists are wrong - which, though true, means you can't claim the irony is universal and then laugh at the religionists for pretending not to see it.
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Old 12-14-2007, 10:49 PM   #19
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Originally posted by Pekka
Well... he does have a point though. Besides, you can't scientifically research religion, but you can do that with climate so... the Pope is right! Not entirely true,
although you cannot disprove god (or the adterworld) by scientific means, you can at least disprove some of the claims religious fundamentalists (who believe in the literal truth of the bible [or other holy books]) make.

For example you can disprove the age of the world to be 6k years as well as you can disprove other stories within the bible, like the great flood and many other things by scientific means.
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Old 12-14-2007, 10:57 PM   #20
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Can't disprove the existance of Nyarlathotep either, Proteus_MST.
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