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There were four country churches in a small Texas town: The Presbyterian Church, the Baptist Church, the Methodist Church and the Catholic Church. Each church was overrun with pesky squirrels.
One day, the Presbyterian Church called a meeting to decide what to do about the squirrels. After much prayer and consideration they determined that the squirrels were predestined to be there and they shouldn't interfere with God's divine will. In the Baptist Church the squirrels had taken up habitation in the baptistery. The deacons met and decided to put a cover on the baptistery and drown the squirrels in it. The squirrels escaped somehow and there were twice as many there the next week. The Methodist Church got together and decided that they were not in a position to harm any of God's creation. So, they humanely trapped the Squirrels and set them free a few miles outside of town. Three days later, the squirrels were back. But -- The Catholic Church came up with the best and most effective solution. They baptized the squirrels and registered them as members of the church. Now they only see them on Christmas and Easter. |
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Originally posted by Arrian
I love the religionistas pretending they don't see the humor. It's cute. -Arrian cause of course youd expect religionists to consider "Temperature change is caused by GHG emissions" in the same category, epistimelogically, as "There exists an omnipotent being in the universe" or whatever. Sheesh. What I dont know is why isnt the Pope more focused on the ideologues who want to deny the existence of anthropogenic GW? |
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Originally posted by lord of the mark
cause of course youd expect religionists to consider "Temperature change is caused by GHG emissions" in the same category, epistimelogically, as "There exists an omnipotent being in the universe" or whatever. Sheesh. What I dont know is why isnt the Pope more focused on the ideologues who want to deny the existence of anthropogenic GW? Well, one would expect consistency when it comes to wanting "firm evidence" and being wary of "dubious ideology" actually, LotM. My post was specifically in response to at least two "what's so funny?" posts from believers. If you can't figure out why it's funny, man, I dunno what to do with you. -Arrian |
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Originally posted by Arrian
Well, one would expect consistency when it comes to wanting "firm evidence" and being wary of "dubious ideology" actually, LotM. Ive read some of the IPCC reports, and theyre based on what evidence is available. We cant wait for proof of exactly what the temp is going to reach under given GHG emissions scenarios. By the time we have that, we will have done things with far reaching consequences. Indeed, that is where more of the irony lies, IMO. The Pope should read Pascal, perhaps. |
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Originally posted by Arrian
Oh, I have an idea. But I don't want to get nasty, so I'll leave it be. -Arrian "OMG, the atheists are attacking us for being a religion, what irony, thats so funny?" "wheres the humor?" "OMG, they dont see the humor, LOL" Look, obviously religionists consider that they HAVE looked at appropriate evidence. Anti-religionists think they havent. Its quite natural for anti-religionists to disagree with religionists. Its not very reasonable to expect them to see the humor in something based on the assumption that their evidence is not appropriate. |
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This is certainly cute, but I don't think the irony is as strong as some claim here. The religionists have a valid defense, IMO (the difference between religion and science). The only way to ignore that defense is to assume a priori that the religionists are wrong - which, though true, means you can't claim the irony is universal and then laugh at the religionists for pretending not to see it.
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Originally posted by Pekka
Well... he does have a point though. Besides, you can't scientifically research religion, but you can do that with climate so... the Pope is right! ![]() although you cannot disprove god (or the adterworld) by scientific means, you can at least disprove some of the claims religious fundamentalists (who believe in the literal truth of the bible [or other holy books]) make. For example you can disprove the age of the world to be 6k years as well as you can disprove other stories within the bible, like the great flood and many other things by scientific means. |
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