[dyestymum]

The Chemtrail Conspiracy involves the process in which planes essentially "trail" the sky with toxic chemicals. Unlike Contrails, which is the normal "debris" left behind an aircraft's engines, chemtrails are reportedly longer, thicker, and visible for hours. From Wiki:

The chemtrail theory apparently first achieved prominence in mid-to-late 1990s.[1][2] Chemtrails have been discussed on radio programs hosted by Art Bell and Jeff Rense with investigative journalist William Thomas who first reported on chemtrails.[3] According to a FAQ[4] posted at Jeff Rense's website, "chemtrails (CTs) look like contrails initially, but are much thicker, extend across the sky and are often laid down in varying patterns of X's, tic-tac-toe grids, cross-hatched and parallel lines. Instead of quickly dissipating, chemtrails expand and drip feathers and mares' tails. In 30 minutes or less, they open into wispy formations which join together, forming a thin white veil or a 'fake cirrus-type cloud' that persists for hours." Now I'm not really one for conspiracies, but just the other day there wasn't a cloud in the sky near my house, but as planes continued to pass over, the sky was almost completely transformed. This shot was taken from someone who lives near my area. Every single one of those "trails" is from a plane. I don't necessarily believe in chemtrails, but goddamn that's a lot of pollution

[dyestymum]

A local news cast:


The following is from a KSLA, News 12 investigation by Jeff Ferrell
Shreveport, Louisiana

This is a good development. Paul Moyer of KNBC, Los Angeles
now has some company with exposing the chemtrails.

Tests done on the chem fallout showed dangerous levels of barium.


Local news station confirms barium in chemtrails
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okB-489l6MI

Complete Transcript:























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news anchor: Could a strange substance found by a Southwest Arkansas man be part of a government test? Well, that's the question at the heart of a phenomenon called "Chemtrails," now getting widespread attention.

Well tonight, KSLA News12 investigation reporter, Jeff Ferrell, shows us the result of testing we had done about what's in our skies.


The Report

"It seemed like some mornings it was just criss-crossing the whole sky. There were just, it was just like a giant checkerboard,"

Bill Nichols snapped several photos of the strange clouds from his home in Stamps, Arkansas. They begin as normal contrails from a jet engine but do not fade away like a normal contrail. Soon after, he saw particles in the air.

" Because you know we'd see it drop to the ground in a haze."

Nichols then noticed the material collecting on the ground.

"This is water and stuff that I collected in bowls. I had it sitting out in my backyard on my dad's pick-up truck."

KSLA News12 had the sample tested at a lab. The results: A high level of barium, 6.8 parts per million, more than three times the toxic level set by the EPA.

Armed with these lab results about the high levels of barium found in our sample, we decided to contact the Louisiana Department of Environmental Quality. They told us that, yes, these levels are very unusual. But at the same time they added the caveat that proving the source is a whole another matter.

Barium is a hallmark of other chemtrail testing, which even attracted attention from a Los Angeles tv station.

There's already no shortage of unclassified weather modification programs by the government. But those who fear chemtrails could be secret biological or chemical testing on the public point to the 1977 Senate hearings in particular which confirmed 239 populated areas had been contaminated with biological agents between 1949 and 1969. Later, the 1994 Rockefeller Report concluded hundreds of thousands of military personnel were also subjected to secret biological experiments over the last 60 years.

But could secret testing be underway yet again?

"I'd rather it be something inert and benign, you know something that's not causing any damage. But I'd like to know what it is."

KSLA News12 discovered chemtrails are even mentioned by name in the initial draft of House Bill 2977 back in 2001, under the Space Preservation Act. But the military denies any such program exists.

Jeff Ferrell, KSLA News12 reporting


news anchor: And you know, it turns out that until nine years ago, the government had the right, under U.S. law, to conduct secret testing on the American public under specific conditions. Only a public outcry repealed part of that law, with some "exceptions."

second news anchor: And Jeff's report mentioned high levels of barium linked to those alleged chemtrails. We wanted to find out exactly what effects barium has on the body. We spoke with Mark Ryan, the Director of the Poison Control Center. Ryan tells KSLA News12 that short term exposure can lead to anything from stomach to chest pains. Long-term exposure causes blood pressure problems.

Ryan addressed concerns by chemtrail researchers that barium could be meant to wear down a person's immune system.

"Anything that causes ill effects on the body long-term, chronically, is going to affect your ability. It's just constantly working on the body. So from that aspect, yeah, it's a potential."

Ryan says he's conducted research on his own about secret government testing on the public. But he's still a bit skeptical about the alleged chemtrails, at least at the moment. The Poison Control Center has seen no calls about exposure to barium.

[Vipvlad]

Looks like clouds

[dyestymum]

Looks like clouds

I can confirm that those are from planes. Yesterday was a beautiful afternoon without a cloud in the sky. Every single one of those is from an air plane.

[Aqgkvwzm]

I can confirm that those are from planes. Yesterday was a beautiful afternoon without a cloud in the sky. Every single one of those is from an air plane.

I don't get it. Did you people just realize that some planes create cloud like stuff when flying? I used to watch stuff like this when I was younger. Watch as a plane flies past with a cloudy trail behind it. Than watch as that cloudy trail spreads out and disappears.

[Vipvlad]

I don't get it. Did you people just realize that some planes create cloud like stuff when flying? I used to watch stuff like this when I was younger. Watch as a plane flies past with a cloudy trail behind it. Than watch as that cloudy trail spreads out and disappears.

Yeah I didnt realize this was anything new...

[dyestymum]

I don't get it. Did you people just realize that some planes create cloud like stuff when flying? I used to watch stuff like this when I was younger. Watch as a plane flies past with a cloudy trail behind it. Than watch as that cloudy trail spreads out and disappears.

That's a contrail, everyone knows what this is. Chemtrails are trails that stay around for HOURS. The above picture accrued over the period of an entire day. There wasn't a cloud in site, and every single one of those trails was created by a plane. When the planes flew by, the trail was narrow and thin, and gradually spread out over almost the entire horizon. Granted, I'm not claiming that I beleive in chemtrails, but the pollution caused by these trails is astronomical and stayed around in the air for the entire day.

[OlegSan]

That's a contrail, everyone knows what this is. Chemtrails are trails that stay around for HOURS. The above picture accrued over the period of an entire day. There wasn't a cloud in site, and every single one of those trails was created by a plane. When the planes flew by, the trail was narrow and thin, and gradually spread out over almost the entire horizon. Granted, I'm not claiming that I beleive in chemtrails, but the pollution caused by these trails is astronomical and stayed around in the air for the entire day.

What you see isn't pollution. It's condensation.

Contrails or vapor trails are condensation trails and artificial cirrus clouds made by the exhaust of aircraft engines or wingtip vortices which precipitate a stream of tiny ice crystals in moist, frigid upper air. Being composed of water, the visible white streams are not, in and of themselves, air pollution. However, vapour trails or contrails generated by engine exhaust are inevitably linked with typical fuel combustion pollutants. Also, this chemtrail stuff is pure bunk. It would be pretty damn easy to check the commercial airline flight patterns and cross reference them with the trails left over a certain area at a certain time of the day. People are so weird.

EDIT: And not only that, but why in the hell would a person assume that a stream of chemicals sprayed in the air by a plane would stay in the air longer than simple water vapor? CLOUDS are made of water vapor FFS.

[dyestymum]

What you see isn't pollution. It's condensation.



Also, this chemtrail stuff is pure bunk. It would be pretty damn easy to check the commercial airline flight patterns and cross reference them with the trails left over a certain area at a certain time of the day. People are so weird.

EDIT: And not only that, but why in the hell would a person assume that a stream of chemicals sprayed in the air by a plane would stay in the air longer than simple water vapor? CLOUDS are made of water vapor FFS.

I agree with what you're saying, but yesterday the relative humidity was around %50, as a cold northern front moved in and essentially wiped all the clouds away. Wouldn't the contrails last a shorter time, causing precipitation to lessen due to the lack of humidity? These trails were in the air for hours upon hours until the entire sky was filled.

Another thing I found weird was that two nearly identicle planes were flying next to each other, one spurting trails like crazy and the other not releasing any at all. I have a relatively crude picture I took of it i'll post in a minute.



Edit: And just for the sake of argument, who says these are commercial planes, thus making it more difficult to cross reference?

[dyestymum]

Apparently, the video below essentially proves chemtrails in Germany.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVc9G...eature=related

[h4z1XBI7]

yep youtube proves everything

[FinanseMikky]

The Illuminati are at it again.

[jq0AFTTC]

I've heard about this chem trail thing before (somebody posted a video about it here some time ago). It's a load of bunk if you ask me. For what purpose would anybody be spraying chemicals in to the atmosphere?

As for these so-called chem trails lasting in the air longer than standard con trails I'd put that down to different atmospherics or something; I'm sure someone like Neeyik could explain it.

[Hetgvwic]

Ive always been taught that contrails are nothing more than just pure condensed water/ice trails at altitude and are no more harmful than clouds toxicity wise and pose no real threat to the atmosphere.

although its supposedly been proven that contrails that crisscross the sky can add to the warming up of the atmosphere by reflecting the heat back down.

but I believe that is utter bolaxs because if its a cloudy day the cloud ceiling will be far lower than where the contrails are formed at 30k+ft

[maniaringsq]

People spray stuff in the air since airoplanes exist. Specially to ceate rain or to weaken supercells/tornado's before they cause severe damage to infrastructure and lifes.

I am positive that some sightings about chemtrails are real, it may not be harmfull to life though. We just don't know what it may be.

[Vipvlad]

It's a load of bunk

You got that right!

[aNoBVsUW]

of all the conspiracies I have heard. This one actually makes the most sense.

[jq0AFTTC]

of all the conspiracies I have heard. This one actually makes the most sense.

How so?

[dyestymum]

Ive always been taught that contrails are nothing more than just pure condensed water/ice trails at altitude and are no more harmful than clouds toxicity wise and pose no real threat to the atmosphere.

although its supposedly been proven that contrails that crisscross the sky can add to the warming up of the atmosphere by reflecting the heat back down.

but I believe that is utter bolaxs because if its a cloudy day the cloud ceiling will be far lower than where the contrails are formed at 30k+ft

I think the problem that many people are having here is that they are confusing Contrails with Chemtrails. Contrails are not Chemtrails, and the stuff that exudes from the planes engines is percipitation and ice crystals. When you see a plane and a trail is streaming behind it, chances are it's a contrail, and dissapears after a few minutes. However, take a day like two days ago, without a cloud in the sky, and notice the above picture that is literally covered in trails. Contrails generally dissapear within a few minutes, yet these trails were there the entire day, and covered the entire sky.

[jq0AFTTC]

I think the problem that many people are having here is that they are confusing Contrails with Chemtrails. Contrails are not Chemtrails, and the stuff that exudes from the planes engines is percipitation and ice crystals. When you see a plane and a trail is streaming behind it, chances are it's a contrail, and dissapears after a few minutes. However, take a day like two days ago, without a cloud in the sky, and notice th above picture that is literally covered in trails. Contrails generally dissapear within a few minutes, yet these trails were there the entire day, and covered the entire sky.

As I said earlier I'm sure there's some logical explanation for why some contrails disappear within a few minutes and others are there for a while.

And if they were spraying stuff what would be the point of it hanging around in the sky?