[theatadug]

I have never anticipated an election as much as the on oncoming.
Bush is probably experiencing anticipation that eclipses mine. Saying, "screw this. I get SO tired of Oerdin's ranting. Get me out of here".

[freeprescriptionplanrrx]

So, in other words, we have the George Bush Administration deliberately breaking the Federal law which requires all public business to be conducted in public or on the public record. E-mails are supposed to happen only on government owned servers where records can be kept of all e-mails for historic purposes. The White House is afraid to comply with this law because they don't want to end up like Nixon, whose criminal acts were all able to be tracked down, so they have illegally set up an elaborate partisan network which they regularly scrub to delete records of their activities.

This is obviously deliberate and obviously illegal so let's try every single last mother ****er who ever used this illegal system.

[agracias]

You don't even care if the law is enforced do you? You don't even care that the White House and the RNC are deliberately breaking the law?

[bUqLfXRI]

Cite? Also Gore used the public telephone on the record. This administration has deliberately created a secret network where they can conspire, without ever being on the public record, to do what ever they want. That is a illegal and has been since the 1960's.

[Mumeseest]

Still no cite, eh?

[nvmrfgopyy]

I would gladly send Gore to jail if it meant Karl Rove had to go too!

[diundasmink]

Unbelievable!

[tattcasetle]

No one has been accussed of stealing any elections.

Michael Collins, a writer and "clean elections" activist, does not accuse Smartech or any other firm of wrongdoing, but he does offer this hypothetical tableau: Still waiting for that citation.

[perhilzit]

OK I've hit my limit. No longer even laugh worthy.

It's since moved onto sad and pathetic.

[spamkillerf]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
Bush is probably experiencing anticipation that eclipses mine. Saying, "screw this. I get SO tired of Oerdin's ranting. Get me out of here". I agree with Bush 100% on this

[myspauyijbv]

The conspiracy theories are sometimes rediculous. But the blatent corruption that you and other rightists seem to ignore is far more rediculous. And is frightening also.

Jon Miller

[herawaq]

100k is pocket change compared to what the Republicans have done... I can't see how you can be so blind.

Jon Miller

[hoarrimilsora]

Originally posted by Jon Miller
100k is pocket change compared to what the Republicans have done... I can't see how you can be so blind.

Jon Miller Yeah, and the Dems are all pure as snow white.

[Gvadelunar]

How is it a shadow network? Is it not a publicly registered server? Did anyone actually lie about it when asked? Or did everyone using this simply think this to be no big deal and something only a self deluded left wing wacko could ever give a **** about?

Guess what Oerdin, I am a government employee. I routinely do all sorts of business after hours at home/on vacation on yahoo, gmail, and even my old college account. OH THE HORROR!

But get this. When I was left behind in Glasgow as a RN liaison I was told to use civilian email accounts because there was no other way to say in contact with work! Bush is the CINC, I was ordered to use civilian email, OH MY GOD BUSH ORDERED ME TO BREAK THE LAW. It goes all the way to the top!

I guess its a good thing the Brits couldn't give me an email account, or I would have been conducting official US government business on a foreign governments server!

[SkatrySkith]

Why can't they just use yahoo accounts?

[Ubgvuncd]

Is the White House attempting to illegally hide records?

I bet they have thousands of copies of the Beatles White album.

Rat bastards.

ACK!

[Mangoman]

Originally posted by Perfection
Why can't they just use yahoo accounts? They wouldn't, because they wouldn't be secure enough.

They shouldn't because federal law mandates that they use .gov domain email for government business. They have demonstrably not done that in the case of thee prosecutor firings.

Rove and a bunch of other staffers have very clearly broken a federal law here. That nothing will come of thatt speaks to the overall health of the Republic, and does not speak well.

[VarenHokalos]

Was it wrong... yep... illegal... yep... expected... yep

Do I condone it... NO... Are the democrats as bad... yes... Do I condone the dems when the break the law... NO.

Am I outraged at both major parties... Yes... Am I outraged at the current administration and all other past administrations that have also broken the law... YES...

Do I think that my party is clean and that only the other party sucks... NO

The Dems will be in power soon enough so that they can get their fair share of corruption, and have the ability to break federal law as well. I hope you will be as outraged then

[g4YthYXx]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...041200941.html
The White House yesterday said it has no idea how many e-mails have been lost.

In an afternoon conference call with reporters, White House spokesman Scott Stanzel spread the blame all around. "White House policy did not give clear enough guidance," he said. "The oversight of that wasn't aggressive enough." And individual White House staffers "did not do a good enough job of following existing preservation policy -- or seeking guidance."

Said Stanzel: "I guess the bottom line is that our policy at the White House was not clear enough for employees."

But when I asked Stanzel to read out loud the White House e-mail policy, it seemed clear enough to me: "Federal law requires the preservation of electronic communications sent or received by White House staff," says the handbook that all staffers are given and expected to read and comply with.

"As a result, personnel working on behalf of the EOP [Executive Office of the President] are expected to only use government-provided e-mail services for all official communication."

The handbook further explains: "The official EOP e-mail system is designed to automatically comply with records management requirements."

And if that wasn't clear enough, the handbook notes -- as was the case in the Clinton administration -- that "commercial or free e-mail sites and chat rooms are blocked from the EOP network to help staff members ensure compliance and to prevent the circumvention of the records management requirements."

Stanzel refused to publicly release the relevant portions of the White House staff manual and denied my request to make public the transcript of the call, which lasted more than an hour but which -- due to Stanzel's refusal or inability to provide straight answers on many issues -- raised more questions than it answered.

Stanzel said that "some people" may have used their non-government accounts for official business due to "an abundance of caution" in order to avoid violating the Hatch Act, which prohibits the use of government e-mail for overtly political purposes, such as fundraising -- and due to "logistical convenience."

[vodaPlaps]

Originally posted by Oerdin
Ming both parties have a degree of corruption (it is unavoidable given the nature of large organizations with hundreds of thousands if not millions of members) but it's pretty clear one party is VASTY more corrupt then the other one. It's a problem of degrees. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA... the ole, we aren't as bad as you crap... HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA

Wait until the probes are done in Chicago with the Democratic party ...

Both parties are equally BAD... If you want to feel good about yourself because you "think" your party isn't worse than the other... so be it. Sounds like a real hollow victory to me.