[Kingerix]

Mods, before you take this the wrong way, this is NOT a topic related to anything sexual whatsoever.
Many of you have heard about the conflict that has arisen due to 3 girls at a NY high school mentioning the *female reproductive organ* at an open mic night, which was against the administration's wishes. As a result, the girls were suspended, which further resulted in protests beginning throughout NY, then the country, and now the world, fighting for the girls' right to have said the word.
Although I feel it was wrong of them to go against the administration's wishes, I believe it was extremely brave of them to stick to what they believe in. It may have not been the most positive manner to do so, but communities have been so paranoid about making references to male and female body parts, and that needs to stop. It's just the facts of live and people need to accept them and move on.
So, what do you make of this whole ordeal? If you're not sure what I'm talking about, read about it here:
http://www.lohud.com/apps/pbcs.../1018
P.S. Mods, if you feel it's necessary to remove this discussion, I wholeheartedly understand; the only intent of my posting this was to discuss issues of human rights in the modern world, and I felt this was a noteworthy example.

[mybooboo]

I skimmed some of it, I guess it just depends on how it was used.

[WhileKelf]

Indifferent here...I could make a case both ways
V is not that bad of word in my opinion, but I can see why there are rules against...

[orbidewa]

isn it called open mic night for a reason?

[bomondus]

Quote »"It just doesn't make sense for an administration to expect me not to talk about my body - it's mine,"
wow.

[intmarkworkk]

wow..truly wow.
What's wrong with the V word? It's not like it's illegal or something, it's just a freaking word. What else should they call it?
It's an Anatomy people.

[fkisjjdhh]

schools are ridiculous. they are all about censorship and holding down the press, and freedom of speech which i think is ridiculous because we live in america where both of those are amendments for our rights. i mean i understand theres a line, but these girls really did nothing major. unfortunately, schools pull this all the time.
case in point my school. my principal converted a handicap spot into his own personal spot in order to ensure the safety of his car (which in one point, as a car guy, i respect, but thats no reason to steal a handicap spot, and find it more denouncable than respectable), and i wrote about it for the school newspapaer, and to my distaste the article was thrown out, and i was verbally reprimanded.
the moral: public schools have taught me contrary to the US constitution democracy is apparently not the best form of government, and obviously dictatorship is the only necessary means to insure control

[orbidewa]

i think its just representative democracy that doesnt always work. In my opinion a direct democracy would work better than having people voting for people to make decisions for them. We should make them ourselves.

[Kingerix]

i couldn't agree more with what most of you have to say! i think public schools and america in general take the idea of censorship way too far and forget about the idea that we have freed of speech and the press, so it should be instituted in places for people to LEARN about it, which is public schools.
one of the main reasons i posted this is because i go to this high school. the interesting thing is that the principal is the only one that though suspension was acceptable; the dean and vice principal strongly disagreed. luckily, due to so much protest and media coverage (it's been read about all over the U.S., Canada, England, France, Sweden, Greece, Puetro Rico, etc., and continues to grow), the girls' suspensions have been postponed indefinitely.
it's very upsetting, however, that instead of fostering ideas of our forefathers, they are concealed to the future of the world, children in public schools, where they will have no opportunity to learn about them. this needs to change, and hopefully the girls at my school can spark that change.

[lisualsethelp]

Quote, originally posted by Soul Man »schools are ridiculous. they are all about censorship and holding down the press, and freedom of speech which i think is ridiculous because we live in america where both of those are amendments for our rights. i mean i understand theres a line, but these girls really did nothing major. unfortunately, schools pull this all the time.
case in point my school. my principal converted a handicap spot into his own personal spot in order to ensure the safety of his car (which in one point, as a car guy, i respect, but thats no reason to steal a handicap spot, and find it more denouncable than respectable), and i wrote about it for the school newspapaer, and to my distaste the article was thrown out, and i was verbally reprimanded.
the moral: public schools have taught me contrary to the US constitution democracy is apparently not the best form of government, and obviously dictatorship is the only necessary means to insure control

Actually, there were court cases where it was deemed that highschools can indeed censor newspapers and other communications mediums related to the school for various reasons. I cannot recall them at the moment, and I don't wish to misquote or miss the reasons why, but I do recall that they were actually quite compelling.
As far as these girls go; I agree strongly with the actions of the administrators. Although these girls do have the right to free speech, they were on school grounds and their speech falls under the student guidelines of the school. If they've violated them (even at an open mic night) then there's a problem. This situation especially called for a punishment, because these girls were allowed to say the monologues ONLY if they omitted the offensive word, which they agreed to do, and they said it anyways.
Quote »"When a student is told by faculty members not to present specified material because of the composition of the audience, and they agree to do so, it is expected that the commitment will be honored and the directive will be followed," Leprine said. "When a student chooses not to follow the directive, consequences follow. The students did not receive consequences because of the content of the presentation."
Like it or not, the consequences for their actions are just. They knew it would happen, and they went ahead with it anyways.

[bomondus]

^ I agree.
Reminds me of a little story: At a checkpoint, a cop pulls dude over asks him where he was going. Smartass replies with saying, "I do not wish share that info with you." So the cop tells him to get out of the car to ask him some questions and as a result this causes number of inconveniences(sp) for the dude. He could have avoided all this by telling him where the !@#$ he was going. Cops almost always ask that question and they ask anybody.
Same situation here, if they cooperated with this SIMPLE agreement, none of this would have happened.