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Old 05-20-2011, 03:19 PM   #1
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Default Spanish Youths Take to the Streets
The Spanish community in Belgium is planning to do a protest in Brussels even (near the Spanish embassy).

It's nice to protest against unemployment, but I hope they all realize what brought about this economic downturn. Which is a bit doubtful
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Old 05-20-2011, 03:59 PM   #2
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Old 05-20-2011, 05:51 PM   #3
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This is part of the Muslim spring plot to reclaim the Kingdom of Granada.
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Old 05-20-2011, 06:22 PM   #4
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Nothing about this would surprise me. During the worst year of America's Great Depression, unemployment was 25%. Unemployment of 40-45% is staggering.
Unemployment overall is 21%, it's the youth unemployment that is 40-45%. 21% is still awful, of course.
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Old 05-20-2011, 06:41 PM   #5
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Obviously they have no one to blame but themselves for their failure to find jobs.
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Old 05-20-2011, 07:19 PM   #6
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They should just build a proper communist society and never trade with the outside world then they would have infinite jobs.
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Old 05-20-2011, 10:58 PM   #7
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Old 05-20-2011, 11:13 PM   #8
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A large part might also be the idea that work is a necessary evil rather than a goal in itself. I struggle with employees that hit their monthly target during the first week and then slack off until the first day of the following month.
You live in ****ing Spain and Spain by all accounts ****ing rocks. Why would you want to work?
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Old 05-20-2011, 11:24 PM   #9
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Because one gets tired of lying on the beach, lounging by the swimming pool, and going out. For some people, work leads to a sense of accomplishment. For a lot of these protesters, work is that thing you're forced to do in between eating, shagging, and sleeping.
I get a sense of accomplishment from the food I make, the sex I have and the sleep I get.
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Old 05-20-2011, 11:36 PM   #10
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C0ckney, what does that mean, "a lack of jobs"? And why, should there be such a thing, would one protest against the government to turn this situation around?
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Old 05-20-2011, 11:49 PM   #11
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Yes, a large part of it is the construction bubble which popped, and all the jobs that depended on it.
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Old 05-20-2011, 11:56 PM   #12
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A large part might also be the idea that work is a necessary evil rather than a goal in itself. I struggle with employees that hit their monthly target during the first week and then slack off until the first day of the following month.
Great, if they had spent four weeks meeting the monthly target you wouldn't know that you set the target too low.
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Old 05-20-2011, 11:59 PM   #13
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Great, if they had spent four weeks meeting the monthly target you wouldn't know that you set the target too low.
I like how this is patently obvious.
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Old 05-21-2011, 01:10 AM   #14
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Spain is a country that has been "expulsing" people either as jews, moors, conquerors, colonists or poor immigrants since 1492. Spain becoming a country which received millions of immigrants is a novelty in the last half millenium.

That was bad for Spain, Spain's problems would not be as bad with 4 or 5 million people less.

I don't think thess kids demonstrating are construction workers, they are educated middle class people who want middle class jobs.

If I understand correctly, tourism and constructions are the two legs of the Spanish economy and one of them blew up because of a land mine. And Spain isn't the cheap country it used to be so people can go on vacations to other places.

You shouldn't minimize some cases of endemic lazyness in Spain (like the food stamps people in the USA, or some peronists in Argentina) people who are used to only working during the tourism season, and then resting for half of the year getting the unemployment subsidy. Or the PER in Andalucia. If i recall correctly, in the north unemployment is below 10%, only in the southern half it is a disaster.
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Old 05-21-2011, 07:59 AM   #15
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I'm with Barnabas here. I think many of these youths are spoiled. The same
phenomenon is visible in Greece and similar countries. Young people go get
their university degree, they take ages to get it, but afterwards they feel
entitled to a good paying job. Most of those degrees are in law, economics,
comparative philosophy, philosophical comparison and interstellar travel. Not
in great demand in best of times.
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Old 05-21-2011, 05:59 PM   #16
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I propose that south-European youth are much less realistic than north-European youth.
This is because of several different factors at play. One very important factor is that
northerners get kicked out of home early, when about 20 or so, while southerners nowadays
tend to live with (and off) their parents till they're 30 on average. Also, most families in
the south have some sort of rent income, whether from government transfers or simply
from position. It is not uncommon for southern families to have several apartments in
possession and rent them to tourists during the summer. Even families who don't own
something directly get some spillover from this rent economy which raises their income
above their productivity.
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Old 05-21-2011, 06:54 PM   #17
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I propose that south-European youth are much less realistic than north-European youth.
This is because of several different factors at play. One very important factor is that
northerners get kicked out of home early, when about 20 or so, while southerners nowadays
tend to live with (and off) their parents till they're 30 on average. Also, most families in
the south have some sort of rent income, whether from government transfers or simply
from position. It is not uncommon for southern families to have several apartments in
possession and rent them to tourists during the summer. Even families who don't own
something directly get some spillover from this rent economy which raises their income
above their productivity.
Yes, renting an apartment summer months is such an interesting alternative to having a real job and occupy it year long.
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Old 05-21-2011, 07:09 PM   #18
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How about you go to Spain and try to find a job VL?
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Old 05-21-2011, 07:29 PM   #19
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Recessions are caused by cyclical epidemics of laziness.
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Old 05-21-2011, 07:39 PM   #20
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VL says that most Southern Europeans live at home with parents until later in life. I can confirm this. But is it true that most Northern Europeans don't live with their parents through early adulthood?
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