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Old 08-18-2012, 07:22 AM   #21
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LA's biggest problem is its traffic. It would be a manageable place to live if every 15 mile trip didn't take an hour.

Updated above, too if u didn't see.
Oh man, we sat on some freeway between Anaheim and Hollywood for about three ****ing hours it felt like.
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Old 08-18-2012, 10:05 AM   #22
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Utah: This state is fond with German tourists for some reason, but don't let that dissuade you. Zion NP and Bryce Canyon are gorgeous and offer fantastic hiking. Arches is OK, but rather small and appropriate for families. If you're serious about exploring the American outdoors, consider Canyonlands instead.

There's terrific white water rafting in this region of the US. You don't need much experience if you go with a group and guide: you can find tons of rafting outfitters online. Westwater Canyon and Upper Animas have some of the best rapids in the West. If you do the Animas you can arrange to be picked up in the middle of nowhere by the Durango and Silverton Narrow Gauge train. It's a fantastic ride. Whichever river you choose, I recommend you commit to at least a half-day to a full-day rafting trip. And don't bother with any rapids less than Class III.

New York City: Caput mundi. Unless you plan to spend at least two months here, you won't even scratch the surface. Better to visit Chicago or Boston where you can pretty much see everything that's worth seeing in a day.

Going-to-the-Sun Road / Bear Tooth Highway: Probably the two most scenic drives in the US depending on time of year. Glacier NP blows Denver and the Grand Tetons out of the water, and you're not that far from Banff if you decide to go north of the border.

Williamstown, Mass: The Clark Institute has a fantastic art collection housed in a building designed by Tadao Ando, but you're probably not interested in that, so maybe stick to serene drives around the picturesque Berkshires.

Florida: If you loved Las Vegas then I'm sure you'll love Orlando. Key West has a few bars and Hemingway's house where you can see six-toed cats, but not much else unless you're a certified diver. It is famous for its gay nightlife so maybe you'll fit right in.
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Old 08-18-2012, 10:19 AM   #23
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I agree with Zeddo and everyone else that recommended the West coast. Cities like Portland and Seattle are really a sight to be seen. Since they're newer they're much different than what you see in most of Europe or on the east cost of the US. And there can be some amazing scenery along US 101.

THIS! I have done Vancouver to Portland a few times. Lots of great beer in Vancouver, Seattle and Portland. Make sure you drive through Astoria and take their bridge, its pretty neat. I do know there is a train that goes from Portland up to Vancouver, that could be an option.

In Portland, you MUST go to Tugboat Brewery and have some Chernobyl Stout.

Come up to Vancouver, i'll go out for a beer with you!
I was in Astoria earlier this summer. Didn't take the bridge to Washington but we did go up to the top of the column and see some scenic viewpoints.

Here are a couple of pics I took - Haystack Rock and Portland Japanese Garden.



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Old 08-18-2012, 10:24 AM   #24
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It is kinda a drive just to get there, but the Outer Banks is really cool.

All the Atlantic Coast islands in Georgia and near Georgia are all great. A1A on the Atlanta Coast in Florida is great. Drive is right on the beach and you hit some nice areas. Vista Nasa between Jacksonville and Miami.

Panama City Beach, Destin Beach and in through there are really nice beaches.

If you wanna enjoy the country and not be around anyone, Midwest is a great place to start. State parks and government land that are actually interesting/beautiful.

I really enjoy Arizona's landscapes and it has the Grand Canyon there.





One thing I really enjoy doing is just driving around. Sometimes we just drive and if we run into a park sign we visit it if we haven't been. A lot of stuff you never really hear about but some parks are kinda surprising that are tucked away. That is how we ended up in one of the world's largest known cave openings, and another park has one of the worlds largest known underground lakes.
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Old 08-18-2012, 10:46 AM   #25
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All of this information is appreciated, thanks.
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Old 08-18-2012, 02:16 PM   #26
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New York City: Caput mundi. Unless you plan to spend at least two months here, you won't even scratch the surface. Better to visit Chicago or Boston where you can pretty much see everything that's worth seeing in a day.
Just curious as to why you think there's so much more to NYC. I've been there for 5 days and saw a lot, and without walking into a museum of gallery, so I can appreciate there's a lot there. I'd like to go to Chicago. I've got family who like it. Is there really that little there in comparison?
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Old 08-18-2012, 04:40 PM   #27
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Just curious as to why you think there's so much more to NYC. I've been there for 5 days and saw a lot, and without walking into a museum of gallery, so I can appreciate there's a lot there. I'd like to go to Chicago. I've got family who like it. Is there really that little there in comparison?
He's obviously biased because he lives there. NYC requires the patience of a saint, the smugness of a frenchman, and the testosterone of a Japanese school girl to tolerate. Also, there are plays on Broadway.
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Old 08-19-2012, 01:21 AM   #28
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I have been to Atlanta, Colorado, California and Nevada and I have New York and Florida in the pipeline. I want to see more of the real America though, what states (and which cities / towns) do you recommend visiting?

I absolutely loved Golden, Colorado and Littleton, Colorado and Denver, Colorado. Las Vegas is obviously a favourite. California was good as well. Actually, everywhere I have been was great.
Nashville and Smoky Mountains National Park.
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Old 08-19-2012, 02:54 AM   #29
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Nashville and Gatlinburg (which is closer to the park) are tourist hooey, but the Great Smokies is one of the best national parks on the east coast. Alam Bluff Trail is a nice day hike, and I strongly recommend booking reservations many months in advance for the cabins on Mt. Le Conte (I've stayed there twice). The drive through Cades Cove, especially around sunset, is the best in the park and you'll likely see black bear/wild deer.

http://www.lecontelodge.com/

If you head a little further south around Chattanooga, you can white water raft the Ocoee River where the 1996 Olympics slaloms were held.

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Just curious as to why you think there's so much more to NYC. I've been there for 5 days and saw a lot, and without walking into a museum of gallery, so I can appreciate there's a lot there. I'd like to go to Chicago. I've got family who like it. Is there really that little there in comparison?
What could you possibly have seen in 5 days? I'm guessing chain restaurants and shopping outlets. You probably never left Manhattan or went north of 96th street.
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Old 08-19-2012, 02:59 AM   #30
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What could you possibly have seen in 5 days? I'm guessing chain restaurants and shopping outlets. You probably never left Manhattan or went north of 96th street.
I didn't go shopping, no. As far North I went was the top of Central Park. I did briefly go into Brooklyn, but with 5 days there, I obviously didn't stray too far from Manhattan. Also because I walked everywhere too.

Rather than point out everything I did that was wrong, why not suggest what I should see next time I go?


Also, has anyone been to Niagra Falls?.. and is it a bit of a let down? I thought i'd like to see it while i'm in that part of the world.
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Old 08-19-2012, 03:25 AM   #31
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Also, has anyone been to Niagra Falls?.. and is it a bit of a let down? I thought i'd like to see it while i'm in that part of the world.
If you go to the falls make sure you stay around the Canadian side. The New York side is utter garbage.
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Old 08-19-2012, 03:27 AM   #32
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I'd probably wait awhile before visiting the US bud, there appears to be an epidemic of west Nile flu developing.
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Old 08-19-2012, 03:30 AM   #33
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I'd probably wait awhile before visiting the US bud, there appears to be an epidemic of west Nile flu developing.
Listening to the news reports about it, you would think that it's the next plague.
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Old 08-19-2012, 03:41 AM   #34
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Listening to the news reports about it, you would think that it's the next plague.
well apparently you guys get it every year but this year its quite prevalent and aggressive.

the death toll is 60 people as far as I know, I don't think its as bad as the media is saying but people are dieing from it non the less.

Texas is quite badly affected
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Old 08-19-2012, 03:47 AM   #35
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Just curious as to why you think there's so much more to NYC. I've been there for 5 days and saw a lot, and without walking into a museum of gallery, so I can appreciate there's a lot there. I'd like to go to Chicago. I've got family who like it. Is there really that little there in comparison?
Come on man, you can't really think you know NYC after five days? It's like saying you know London after 5 days (I lived there for a year and still don't know much of it).
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Old 08-19-2012, 03:50 AM   #36
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well apparently you guys get it every year but this year its quite prevalent and aggressive.

the death toll is 60 people as far as I know, I don't think its as bad as the media is saying but people are dieing from it non the less.
I'd be more worried about mad cow in the UK.
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Old 08-19-2012, 04:02 AM   #37
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I'd be more worried about mad cow in the UK.
I'd be more worried about your own cases in the USA considering you guys love your steak

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/video/2...lifornia-video

I'd keep an eye on that If I was you
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Old 08-19-2012, 04:20 AM   #38
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I'd be more worried about your own cases in the USA considering you guys love your steak

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/video/2...lifornia-video

I'd keep an eye on that If I was you
Typical British tabloid sensationalism.
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Old 08-19-2012, 04:25 AM   #39
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Typical British tabloid sensationalism.
lol,well lets hope that's all it is then.
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Old 08-19-2012, 04:25 AM   #40
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Typical tabloid sensationalism.
I have removed the typical Sparafucil bigotry for you.
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