[Crazykz]

There's been a number of topics already discussing specific recreational activities and arguing for and against, eg boardgames, watching TV, watching sports, playing sports, computer games...

... I'm starting to get the (possibly mistaken) impression that recreational activity of any kind is frowned upon...

What about reading novels? I enjoy a good science fiction novel for its plot and also the science content, I get a general idea where the next cutting edge development might be... historical novels have historical content eg "Shogun" shows Japan as it was before the rise of the Tokugawa Shoguns... It increases knowledge.

Drawing buildings and scenery, helps mentally visualize in 3D. It's helped me with physics.

Making kites improves skill with hands, flying them increases understanding of wind patterns and the dynamics of flight... (I don't make or fly kites though).

Chess makes you think 3-4 steps ahead, guessing how the opponent will react for each move and devising alternative moves for each possible reaction. It's a valuable skill. Can you guess how Israel will respond in a scenario, what happens if the Syrians do that, if the Zionists go this way, what if they do another thing, etc...

What I'm saying is, many hobbies have the incidental benefit of increasing a skill or a knowledge. Why such negative tone when recreation is being discussed?

(All right, I don't understand the lure of WATCHING a football match while eating pakoras on the sofa either. )

[Amoniustauns]

I grow carnivorous plants as a hobby

[fabrizioitwloch]

I grow carnivorous plants as a hobby

I suppose a few pictures will be allowed by the mods.

[Yinekol]

There's been a number of topics already discussing specific recreational activities and arguing for and against, eg boardgames, watching TV, watching sports, playing sports, computer games...

... I'm starting to get the (possibly mistaken) impression that recreational activity of any kind is frowned upon...

What about reading novels? I enjoy a good science fiction novel for its plot and also the science content, I get a general idea where the next cutting edge development might be... historical novels have historical content eg "Shogun" shows Japan as it was before the rise of the Tokugawa Shoguns... It increases knowledge.

Drawing buildings and scenery, helps mentally visualize in 3D. It's helped me with physics.

Making kites improves skill with hands, flying them increases understanding of wind patterns and the dynamics of flight... (I don't make or fly kites though).

Chess makes you think 3-4 steps ahead, guessing how the opponent will react for each move and devising alternative moves for each possible reaction. It's a valuable skill. Can you guess how Israel will respond in a scenario, what happens if the Syrians do that, if the Zionists go this way, what if they do another thing, etc...

What I'm saying is, many hobbies have the incidental benefit of increasing a skill or a knowledge. Why such negative tone when recreation is being discussed?

(All right, I don't understand the lure of WATCHING a football match while eating pakoras on the sofa either. )

That so made me think of Shogun 2 Total War! The total war games have totally made me a geography expert and an expert on the different Japanese factions during that time...the Tokugawa, Useugi, Chosokabe, Shimazu, Mori, Date, Hori, Imagawa, Hattori, Ikko Ikki, Ito

And I am sure Elder Scrolls Skyrim will make me an expert on killing dragons! So looking forward to that game....what can I say, we all need to have a source of entertainment every once and a while.

[Tndfpcin]

That so made me think of Shogun 2 Total War! The total war games have totally made me a geography expert and an expert on the different Japanese factions during that time...the Tokugawa, Useugi, Chosokabe, Shimazu, Mori, Date, Hori, Imagawa, Hattori, Ikko Ikki, Ito

And I am sure Elder Scrolls Skyrim will make me an expert on killing dragons! So looking forward to that game....what can I say, we all need to have a source of entertainment every once and a while.

All Total War games make you an expert in history, tactics and geography . To be honest i learned every flag in the world and i know pretty much where every country is thanks to the FIFA World Cup games hahah.

Skyrim better have a bigger world than Oblivion.. and more choice in quests.. thats all im saying

[fabrizioitwloch]

All Total War games make you an expert in history, tactics and geography . To be honest i learned every flag in the world and i know pretty much where every country is thanks to the FIFA World Cup games hahah.
Skyrim better have a bigger world than Oblivion.. and more choice in quests.. thats all im saying

Do we have an authentic book on Sidi Omar Mukhtar other than the movie? M. Asad had some things in his Road to Makkah but that is just one meeting.
Wassalam

[hablyShappY]

my brother said its better to play games then going out side
and my brother used all his game fighting skills on me

[ELURNSERB]

purely for info, muft abdur rahman mangera does inshallah intend to hold a class on the 'fiqh of sports, recreation and entertainment' in the future (possibly before the end of this year - post ramdhan).

[Amoniustauns]

I suppose a few pictures will be allowed by the mods.

This is my "pitcher plant". Anything that falls into the trap gets digested. It acts like a stomach.

[kristloken]

This is my "pitcher plant". Anything that falls into the trap gets digested. It acts like a stomach.

SubhanAllah !

I was once asked by my professor about my hobbies, i had none so i just said "err..." then i grinned showing my 32 set of broken teeth.

OP - sports is definately much better than the other hobbies you mentioned. If you compare the benefits of sports to the cognitive skills learned from kite flying, video games and reading.. Health usually wins more points..

Have a look at this:

http://www.halaltube.com/yaser-birjas-fitness-in-islam

Brother MartialArts posted it a while back..

Sometimes even i dont understand why recreational activities are frowned upon.. I left everything so my focus is only on deen but now i feel, I am a human and need some entertainment.

[fabrizioitwloch]

@Brother Wolf,

Sorry for the delayed reply.
Also see here and here.
You reminded me of the botany classes of my very loving and favourite teacher.
Also I ended up in close company of an ex botany professor yesterday. I asked him whether we have the pitcher plant in India. He said that the things are different now a days. Poosa Institute (Indian Institute for Agricultural Research, New Delhi) has all the plants of the world in culture form in Petri Dishes and the environment can be simulated-so you can any time grow any plant you want.
Thanks again.
Wassalam

[ancexiaepidge]

its frowned upon because
a) not being careful about the time you indulge in 'recreation' will take you far away from religion, very very gradually.
b) if you follow the sunnah of Holy Prophet (PBUH) on zikr you will hardly have any time left for 'recreation'
c) even thought it is true that we are human beings and constant focus on one thing isnt possible. even religion. but the Holy Prophet (PBUH)'s idea of recreation serves as an ideal example. i'll sum it up for you:" even in recreation he did something that was considered worship of Allah and that which was pleasing to Him. This mainly includes spending time with his family and the sahaba which in itself is giving rights to fellow human beings and therefore are a form of worship". now see where football etc come into 'worship'?
d) generally Shaytaan uses innocent things to lure you away from Islam. things upon which there is no definite ruling. There is a hadith that asks us to avoid grey areas in Islam. aka The Pasture of Allah (SWT). dont go near it. trust me shaytaan will give you the best possible excuses for doing something that isnt ibaadat, foremost being 'you're a human being, you spent whole day in worship and doing good deeds now its time for you to relax'.
e) such attitude makes ibaadat look like a burden. a true believer worships Allah (SWT) because he loves Him. look at how we run towards the TV at 8pm when the football match starts.who do we love? do we ever run towards namaz like this with such honest and open love?

anything that takes you away from islam is haraam, just remember that.these are points to reflect upon. Only Allah knows best.

[DrCeshing]

my brother said its better to play games then going out side
and my brother used all his game fighting skills on me

aha! that made me laugh

[hablyShappY]

aha! that made me laugh

he plays ASSASSIN'S CREED and all his tricks applied on me

[hablyShappY]

This is my "pitcher plant". Anything that falls into the trap gets digested. It acts like a stomach.

brother can you post some more ............and i was thinking did you try to put your hand in the plant just a thought !!!

[Amoniustauns]

@Brother Wolf,

Sorry for the delayed reply.
Also see here.
You reminded me of the botany classes of my very loving and favourite teacher.
Also I ended up in close company of an ex botany professor yesterday. I asked him whether we have the pitcher plant in India. He said that the things are different now a days.

India has Nepenthes Khasiana (a very endangered pitcher plant). It's the only pitcher plant native to India.

[fabrizioitwloch]

India has Nepenthes Khasiana (a very endangered pitcher plant). It's the only pitcher plant native to India.

Wassalam

[Amoniustauns]

brother can you post some more ............and i was thinking did you try to put your hand in the plant just a thought !!!

This is inside my bedroom:

[Crazykz]

Carnivorous plants are so cute!

[TimoDass]

!!!

How big can the pitcher's get?