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I'm on R2-P3-D3 of the diet (I took the drops) and my LDW was 130.2, but on P3-D1 & D2 I went up 2.8lbs (I'm at 133.0 this morning)

So I did a steak day yesterday, woke up this morning and weighed myself--still 133.0!)

I know I shouldn't be upset, it's only the 3rd day of Phase 3, but I never gained a lb on my 1st round of P3. In fact, I lost 2 lbs on P3 and stabilized perfectly for the rest of the protocol. My first question is:

*Has anyone else gained/had trouble stabilizing during their 2nd round and beyond of Phase 3?

Now this is how I prepared my steak yesterday, so perhaps it's how I prepared it that screwed me over. I just cooked it in a pan with butter, added garlic, lemon pepper and juiced it with half a lime. It was delicious! I didn't eat it until 5:20pm, but the entire day I drank nothing but 2 bottles of 12oz water and had several 20z of coffee with half-n-half creamer.

*Did I prepare my steak properly for a steak day?
*Did I drink too much liquid in 1 day, hence I might be retaining water?

Now I've read posts from other members that Protein Days are more successful than a Steak Day so I'm gonna do this today. However, I've read that to do a proper Protein Day I should cut back on almonds, dairy, and eggs.

*Since half-n-half is still considered dairy, can I have that with my coffee/tea on a Protein Day?
*Could I cook my lean meats with butter on a Protein Day (even though it's also dairy)?

Any input is appreciated, I would really like some encouragement.

*P.S. I was also wondering if it's okay to exercise on a Protein Day (or Steak Day)?

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I'm on R2-P3-D3 of the diet (I took the drops) and my LDW was 130.2, but on P3-D1 & D2 I went up 2.8lbs (I'm at 133.0 this morning)

So I did a steak day yesterday, woke up this morning and weighed myself--still 133.0!)

I know I shouldn't be upset, it's only the 3rd day of Phase 3, but I never gained a lb on my 1st round of P3. In fact, I lost 2 lbs on P3 and stabilized perfectly for the rest of the protocol. My first question is:

*Has anyone else gained/had trouble stabilizing during their 2nd round and beyond of Phase 3?

Now this is how I prepared my steak yesterday, so perhaps it's how I prepared it that screwed me over. I just cooked it in a pan with butter, added garlic, lemon pepper and juiced it with half a lime. It was delicious! I didn't eat it until 5:20pm, but the entire day I drank nothing but 2 bottles of 12oz water and had several 20z of coffee with half-n-half creamer.

*Did I prepare my steak properly for a steak day?
*Did I drink too much liquid in 1 day, hence I might be retaining water?

Now I've read posts from other members that Protein Days are more successful than a Steak Day so I'm gonna do this today. However, I've read that to do a proper Protein Day I should cut back on almonds, dairy, and eggs.

*Since half-n-half is still considered dairy, can I have that with my coffee/tea on a Protein Day?
*Could I cook my lean meats with butter on a Protein Day (even though it's also dairy)?

Any input is appreciated, I would really like some encouragement.

*P.S. I was also wondering if it's okay to exercise on a Protein Day (or Steak Day)?

My guess is it's all the half-n-half which has a lot of milk sugar (and carbs) rather than just heavy whipping cream.

It's also possible that the sugar from the lemon and lime might have been a factor. Lots of people skip or dramatically cut back the fruit the first week or so of P3.

People often seem to have trouble with one round more than another for various reasons. Even foods that caused no problem on one round suddenly cause gains on another. Plus, the closer you get to your ideal weight, it seems the harder your body resists.

For better stabilization, many people are going on the Kruse Leptin Reset for P3/4.

[Ikrleprl]

spanishkey are you pooping???? constipation is a really big problem at the beginning of p3, you can make yourself sick if you dont poop, so i hope you are.

i dont know why the steak day didn't work for you except that steak days and protein days help mostly with water retention and protein deficiency, and if you don't have either of those then you have to do something else because the steak day only fixes those problems.

have you added in any exercise on p3? i'd add a little bit - get your heart rate up to 150 beats per minute for 30 minutes a day (you'll feel it if you dont have a heart monitor, just to the point where you're breathing a little heavier and you start to sweat slightly - you dont have to overdo it, it doesn't take much)

my biggest vote is for making yourself poop - green leafy vegetables, fiber, a prune or senna laxative... whatever. being blocked up causes weight gain, water retention, and all sorts of other problems.

i dont know about this being your second round, and i dont know what you could have eaten that would have made you gain, so this is the best suggestion that i have. good luck!!

edit: also you may be eating 200 or 300 too many calories - you're a much lower weight than you were at your last round, your body needs fewer calories to maintain your new low weight... just thought of that...

[Zhgpavye]

My guess is it's all the half-n-half which has a lot of milk sugar (and carbs) rather than just heavy whipping cream.

It's also possible that the sugar from the lemon and lime might have been a factor. Lots of people skip or dramatically cut back the fruit the first week or so of P3.

I just went to WalMart this morning, checked the nutrition facts & ingredients for both 1/2 & 1/2 and heavy whipping (for comparison) and you're right. Heavy whipping has less sugar carbs than the reg 1/2 & 1/2 (but not by a lot) Though it's higher than calories...Grabbed a carton of the heavy whipping and it tastes just the same like 1/2 & 1/2...but it was much cheaper! Lol

I think you might've helped me figure out why I jumped so high on the weight scale the first day of R2P3: I had about a dozen strawberries throughout the day with a bit of cottage cheese. I miss my yogurt, but since it's not on the protocol I decided to make my own.

I'll probably introduce my body to fruits the 2nd week of P3, just to be on the safe side.

People often seem to have trouble with one round more than another for various reasons. Even foods that caused no problem on one round suddenly cause gains on another. Plus, the closer you get to your ideal weight, it seems the harder your body resists.

For better stabilization, many people are going on the Kruse Leptin Reset for P3/4. I've never heard of this Kruse Leptin Reset, but I'll browse the forums for more information on it. Do you find that most people are successful with it?

Thank you very much for your information!

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spanishkey are you pooping???? constipation is a really big problem at the beginning of p3, you can make yourself sick if you dont poop, so i hope you are.

I didn't poop on the steak day (yesterday), but I just started taking digestive enzymes (Acidophilus) to help me digest the whole steak I was going to eat that afternoon. I also took Centrum for women (gluten-free)

But I found that on my 1st round of P3, I didn't poop either on my steak days. So maybe it's just how my body is naturally, and not the foods.

Also, on Day 1 (which was Sat) I had diarrhea the whole day! I was so worried, but I've read it's very normal for the body to react like this after it's off the HHCG. I was relieved!

i dont know why the steak day didn't work for you except that steak days and protein days help mostly with water retention and protein deficiency, and if you don't have either of those then you have to do something else because the steak day only fixes those problems.

have you added in any exercise on p3? i'd add a little bit - get your heart rate up to 150 beats per minute for 30 minutes a day (you'll feel it if you dont have a heart monitor, just to the point where you're breathing a little heavier and you start to sweat slightly - you dont have to overdo it, it doesn't take much) Not heavy exercising, but I do a little jogging in the morning to start my metabolism.

And also from experience, during R1P3 I found that I was gaining weight when I did mild/heavy exercising. Maybe it was water retention, but the water weight never dropped so I just minimized my exercising and then stopped going to the gym. I doubt I gained muscle in a few days, either...

However, since I've already reached my goal I plan on toning up so I will start going to the gym tomorrow. I actually miss working out.

my biggest vote is for making yourself poop - green leafy vegetables, fiber, a prune or senna laxative... whatever. being blocked up causes weight gain, water retention, and all sorts of other problems. I hope broccoli is considered a green leafy veg because I'm obsessed with it! Lol I just cooked skinless chicken breast and broiled a bag of broccoli as breakfast. Added a side of sodium-free butter. Hopefully I'm doing this Protein Day right! :P

i dont know about this being your second round, and i dont know what you could have eaten that would have made you gain, so this is the best suggestion that i have. good luck!!

edit: also you may be eating 200 or 300 too many calories - you're a much lower weight than you were at your last round, your body needs fewer calories to maintain your new low weight... just thought of that... Thanks for your input, I appreciate it! I think strawberries is what caused my sudden weight gain--I had about a dozens of those, even though they're on protocol. I should've just had a small handful of them, slowly, not an entire box. Oh well, you learn from your mistakes!

Interesting thing you mentioned about the last part. I'm a 5'7", 23-year-old woman weighing (now) 133lbs. A lot of people I've talked to consider this a bit underweight, because I'm "supposed" to be 135lbs. However, the last physical I had my doctor told me I should weigh between 125lbs-135lbs so I'm almost in the middle.

Maybe I'll go less on my calories...but I thought calories didn't matter on P3? I thought it was just all about carbohydrates and sugar?

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spanishkey are you pooping???? constipation is a really big problem at the beginning of p3, you can make yourself sick if you dont poop, so i hope you are.

I didn't poop on the steak day (yesterday), but I just started taking digestive enzymes (Acidophilus) to help me digest the whole steak I was going to eat that afternoon. I also took Centrum for women (gluten-free)

But I found that on my 1st round of P3, I didn't poop either on my steak days. So maybe it's just how my body is naturally, and not the foods.

Also, on Day 1 (which was Sat) I had diarrhea the whole day! I was so worried, but I've read it's very normal for the body to react like this after it's off the HHCG. I was relieved!

i dont know why the steak day didn't work for you except that steak days and protein days help mostly with water retention and protein deficiency, and if you don't have either of those then you have to do something else because the steak day only fixes those problems.

have you added in any exercise on p3? i'd add a little bit - get your heart rate up to 150 beats per minute for 30 minutes a day (you'll feel it if you dont have a heart monitor, just to the point where you're breathing a little heavier and you start to sweat slightly - you dont have to overdo it, it doesn't take much) Not heavy exercising, but I do a little jogging in the morning to start my metabolism.

And also from experience, during R1P3 I found that I was gaining weight when I did mild/heavy exercising. Maybe it was water retention, but the water weight never dropped so I just minimized my exercising and then stopped going to the gym. I doubt I gained muscle in a few days, either...

However, since I've already reached my goal I plan on toning up so I will start going to the gym tomorrow. I actually miss working out.

my biggest vote is for making yourself poop - green leafy vegetables, fiber, a prune or senna laxative... whatever. being blocked up causes weight gain, water retention, and all sorts of other problems. I hope broccoli is considered a green leafy veg because I'm obsessed with it! Lol I just cooked skinless chicken breast and broiled a bag of broccoli as breakfast. Added a side of sodium-free butter. Hopefully I'm doing this Protein Day right! :P

i dont know about this being your second round, and i dont know what you could have eaten that would have made you gain, so this is the best suggestion that i have. good luck!!

edit: also you may be eating 200 or 300 too many calories - you're a much lower weight than you were at your last round, your body needs fewer calories to maintain your new low weight... just thought of that... Thanks for your input, I appreciate it! I think strawberries is what caused my sudden weight gain--I had about a dozens of those, even though they're on protocol. I should've just had a small handful of them, slowly, not an entire box. Oh well, you learn from your mistakes!

Interesting thing you mentioned about the last part. I'm a 5'7", 23-year-old woman weighing (now) 133lbs. A lot of people I've talked to consider this a bit underweight, because I'm "supposed" to be 135lbs. However, the last physical I had my doctor told me I should weigh between 125lbs-135lbs so I'm almost in the middle.

Maybe I'll go less on my calories...but I thought calories didn't matter on P3? I thought it was just all about carbohydrates and sugar?

[MpbY5dkR]

I've never heard of this Kruse Leptin Reset, but I'll browse the forums for more information on it. Do you find that most people are successful with it?

Thank you very much for your information!

There are several threads here-- you can do a forum search for "Leptin".

Here is the quick synopsis: http://jackkruse.com/my-leptin-prescription/

On another point, maybe you are just fine at being 133-135.

[freflellalafe]

There are several threads here-- you can do a forum search for "Leptin".

Here is the quick synopsis: http://jackkruse.com/my-leptin-prescription/

On another point, maybe you are just fine at being 133-135.

Thank you, I actually found the link on your signature lol very interesting stuff to read.