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**Sarbrienna** · 11-10-2010, 09:17 PM

i've found very limited discussions on this with google, etc, so I figured I'd give PBC a go!

I've heard a few varying opinions.. one is that you look at them at 8 weeks, and then not again until they're mature, because there are so many changes in that time. Well, i've been worried about Indie's backline for a bit, because she's developed a roach over her loin.. and though the standard calls for a slight rise over the loin, as opposed to a table top, I think it might be a bit too much.

So.. opinions, photos, etc on your experience with the mysterious puppy topline are much appreciated!

Indie @ 8 weeks:

Indie @ 14 weeks

and at her BIS novice puppy win against no competition. She wasn't standing right.. but when she's just standing, this is how she stands:

**zenihan** · 11-10-2010, 09:55 PM

Dont worry about it. If you pulled her legs back, it would look fine, some dogs have a longer stack, as long as her back legs are still straight up an down and the roach is normal

**QbCp7LaZ** · 11-11-2010, 04:39 AM

Puppies seem to grow at the back and then the front catches up which is why a lot of prople say not to worry about them getting a bit out of proportion as they grow.

**Michaelnewerb** · 11-11-2010, 05:00 AM

Can we get some natural pics of her?

I really doubt it'll stick w/ her... Moto grew legs, body, legs, body for awhile. Now that he's 5 months he grows evenly all around.

**Sarbrienna** · 12-10-2010, 07:20 AM

here are two natural stacks of hers:

Best I could get yet, and she's leaning into the leash. :/

**pongeystrhjst** · 12-10-2010, 12:16 PM

MJ had such high rears and a roach back as a pup, I wanted to cry. She evened out at about 10 months of age.

**Sarbrienna** · 12-10-2010, 06:07 PM

4 paws, that's how I've been feeling! like, NO WAY can this dog have such a horrible topline.. lol. I just need reassurance that there's still a good chance it will go away. It doesn't help that all her siblings have flat toplines, and one is taking BIS puppy after BIS puppy! I know that with her awkward topline, she's not going to do as well in puppy classes, but the experience is helping us both out tremendously. Thanks to all for the replies!

**Michaelnewerb** · 12-10-2010, 06:25 PM

The first natural pic doesn't look as bad as her stacked photos. I'm betting it'll even out as she ages

**levitratestimon** · 12-11-2010, 01:22 AM

Star has an arch in his back. Back and front higher than middle

11-10-2010, 09:17 PM	#1
Sarbrienna Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 377 Senior Member	Top/backlines: Can they level with age? i've found very limited discussions on this with google, etc, so I figured I'd give PBC a go! I've heard a few varying opinions.. one is that you look at them at 8 weeks, and then not again until they're mature, because there are so many changes in that time. Well, i've been worried about Indie's backline for a bit, because she's developed a roach over her loin.. and though the standard calls for a slight rise over the loin, as opposed to a table top, I think it might be a bit too much. So.. opinions, photos, etc on your experience with the mysterious puppy topline are much appreciated! Indie @ 8 weeks: Indie @ 14 weeks and at her BIS novice puppy win against no competition. She wasn't standing right.. but when she's just standing, this is how she stands: Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-10-2010, 09:55 PM	#2
zenihan Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 485 Senior Member	Dont worry about it. If you pulled her legs back, it would look fine, some dogs have a longer stack, as long as her back legs are still straight up an down and the roach is normal Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-11-2010, 04:39 AM	#3
QbCp7LaZ Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 490 Senior Member	Puppies seem to grow at the back and then the front catches up which is why a lot of prople say not to worry about them getting a bit out of proportion as they grow. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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11-11-2010, 05:00 AM	#4
Michaelnewerb Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 622 Senior Member	Can we get some natural pics of her? I really doubt it'll stick w/ her... Moto grew legs, body, legs, body for awhile. Now that he's 5 months he grows evenly all around. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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12-10-2010, 07:20 AM	#5
Sarbrienna Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 377 Senior Member	here are two natural stacks of hers: Best I could get yet, and she's leaning into the leash. :/ Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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12-10-2010, 12:16 PM	#6
pongeystrhjst Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 718 Senior Member	MJ had such high rears and a roach back as a pup, I wanted to cry. She evened out at about 10 months of age. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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12-10-2010, 06:07 PM	#7
Sarbrienna Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 377 Senior Member	4 paws, that's how I've been feeling! like, NO WAY can this dog have such a horrible topline.. lol. I just need reassurance that there's still a good chance it will go away. It doesn't help that all her siblings have flat toplines, and one is taking BIS puppy after BIS puppy! I know that with her awkward topline, she's not going to do as well in puppy classes, but the experience is helping us both out tremendously. Thanks to all for the replies! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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12-10-2010, 06:25 PM	#8
Michaelnewerb Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 622 Senior Member	The first natural pic doesn't look as bad as her stacked photos. I'm betting it'll even out as she ages Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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12-11-2010, 01:22 AM	#9
levitratestimon Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 413 Senior Member	Star has an arch in his back. Back and front higher than middle Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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