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Old 07-28-2011, 04:10 PM   #1
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Default EXCLUSIVE: U.S. Military Serviceman Arrested in Second Alleged Attack on Ft. Hood
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/07/28...ck-on-ft-hood/

On Stars and Stripes too. WTF is wrong with people? At least they prevented another attack.
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Old 07-28-2011, 05:39 PM   #2
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AWOL Campbell pfc. arrested near Hood with bomb
By Joe Gould - Staff reporter
Posted : Thursday Jul 28, 2011 10:24:23 EDT
An AWOL soldier from Fort Campbell, Ky., was arrested near Fort Hood, Texas, apparently averting another attack on the post, according to an internal Army message.

According a worldwide Army alert, Killeen police arrested a private first class who was in possession of a bomb, gun and a “large quantity” of ammunition — as well as an Army uniform. His full name was not released.

“Upon questioning, suspect admitted to planning an attack on Fort Hood,” reads the message, from the Army Operations Center at the Pentagon in Washington, D.C. “It is not clear if this individual is acting alone or in coordination with others. Therefore all commands are directed to communicate this threat.”

Before the arrest, Killeen police received a tip from ... Read the rest of OUR EXCLUSIVE the story here.
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Old 07-29-2011, 12:28 AM   #3
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I wondered if that is why CBC Gulfport had 2 guys at the gates with shotguns...
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Old 07-29-2011, 03:09 AM   #4
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Kinda makes you wonder what details have been left out concerning this guy. Blackfive has some background that is interesting.
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Old 07-29-2011, 05:22 PM   #5
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I loved the quote at the bottom of the article.
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Old 07-31-2011, 07:22 PM   #6
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I don't know but something went wrong with this kid in the last year. Other follow on articles state how a year ago he condemned Hasan's attack and that isn't what Muslims do or believe and now he's plotting to blow up soldiers? He can't be disgruntled about still having to deploy because they gave him conscientious objector. I think there's more to this kid than what's reported. He sounds like he had issues before he joined.

At least it didn't happen and another tragedy was averted.
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Old 08-01-2011, 04:59 AM   #7
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Naser Abdo is another in a long line of Islamic fundamentalists who just want to blow people up. It's what they do. And if I have to listen to another Moslem tell me that Islam is a religion of peace then I may not be so peaceful myself. And oh yeah, how many of these guys are perverts in disguise? Well, Abdo is and so was his father. Child porn was their perversion of choice. And the Moslem extremists say the WEST is decadent!!?? Give me a break.
http://www.libertarianrepublican.net/2011/07/abdos-muslim-father-convicted-child.htmlhttp://www.johnsoncitypress.com/News...e.php?id=91488
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Old 08-01-2011, 03:23 PM   #8
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Hood suspect defiant in court appearance

By Jamie Stengle - The Associated Press
Posted : Friday Jul 29, 2011 13:09:03 EDT

WACO, Texas — Coolly defiant, Pfc. Naser Abdo shouted “Nidal Hasan, Fort Hood 2009!” as he was led out of the courtroom Friday, an apparent homage to the suspect in the worst mass shooting ever on a U.S. military installation. He condemned the attack less than a year ago, but is now accused of trying to repeat it.

Investigators say Abdo, who cited his Muslim beliefs in requesting conscientious objector status last year, was found in a motel room three miles from Fort Hood’s main gate with a handgun, an article titled “Make a bomb in the kitchen of your Mom” and the ingredients for an explosive device, including gunpowder, shrapnel and pressure cookers. An article with that title appears in an al-Qaida magazine.

Abdo went absent without leave from Fort Campbell, Ky., early this month after being charged with possessing child pornography.

Police and the Army say ... Read the rest of the story here.
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Old 08-01-2011, 05:43 PM   #9
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I wonder anybody connected to the under the hood cafe, or for that matter IVAW, enabled or helped this moron get to hood?
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Old 08-01-2011, 10:38 PM   #10
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I wanna mail this dude a pig turd in a box. Seriously.
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Old 08-02-2011, 03:54 AM   #11
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I laughed my ass off at this from that news report..

"“Only when the military and America can disassociate Muslims from terror can we move onto a brighter future of religious collaboration and dialogue that defines America and makes me proud to be an American,” Abdo wrote."
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Old 08-02-2011, 09:25 AM   #12
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Well he's not doing much to help that disassociation is he!
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Old 08-02-2011, 11:52 AM   #13
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Yesterday, 08:54 PMgarhkal
"“Only when the military and America can disassociate Muslims from terror can we move onto a brighter future of religious collaboration and dialogue that defines America and makes me proud to be an American,” Abdo wrote."

Did the sentance before this one begin with, "After we have killed all the infidels..."
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Old 08-02-2011, 12:06 PM   #14
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I laughed my ass off at this from that news report..

"“Only when the military and America can disassociate Muslims from terror can we move onto a brighter future of religious collaboration and dialogue that defines America and makes me proud to be an American,” Abdo wrote."
Irony, writ large...
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Old 08-03-2011, 02:36 AM   #15
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More like wishful thinking.
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Old 08-03-2011, 02:33 PM   #16
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Naser Abdo is another in a long line of Islamic fundamentalists who just want to blow people up. It's what they do. And if I have to listen to another Moslem tell me that Islam is a religion of peace then I may not be so peaceful myself. And oh yeah, how many of these guys are perverts in disguise? Well, Abdo is and so was his father. Child porn was their perversion of choice. And the Moslem extremists say the WEST is decadent!!?? Give me a break.
http://www.libertarianrepublican.net/2011/07/abdos-muslim-father-convicted-child.htmlhttp://www.johnsoncitypress.com/News...e.php?id=91488
So according to what you say, only Muslims look at child porn? Being a certain religion, ethnicity, etc does not make someone look at child porn. Those people are sick and have something wrong with them.

But yes it is FUNDAMENTALISTS who want to blow people up - whether it be an Islamic fundamentalist, Christian, whatever. Anyone who is a fundamentalist has taken a religion and twisted it to their viewpoint. But someone who just practices Islam, they are very peaceful people. I've known many Muslims and they don't want to blow us all up like Al Qaeda or whoever.
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Old 08-04-2011, 01:17 AM   #17
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I don't know of any christian fundamentalists who blow stuff up..
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Old 08-04-2011, 04:23 PM   #18
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I don't know of any christian fundamentalists who blow stuff up..
Hmm..let's see there have been Christian fundamenatlists who blow stuff up and murder or attempt to murder people:

Most recently Norway: http://news.yahoo.com/christian-terr...181559379.html

Mark Juergensmeyer, editor of the book "Global Religions: An Introduction" and a sociology professor at the University of California, Santa Barbara, wrote an essay likening Breivik to Timothy McVeigh, the American who killed 168 people in the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing. It was the deadliest terrorist attack on U.S. soil until 9/11.

McVeigh and Breivik were both "good-looking young Caucasians, self-enlisted soldiers in an imagined cosmic war to save Christendom ... and both were Christian terrorists," Juergensmeyer wrote.

In a column for Salon.com, Alex Pareene said Breivik is not an American-style evangelical, but he listed other connections to Christianity. "All of this says 'Christian terrorist,'" Pareene wrote.


April 8 2010: http://www.religiondispatches.org/ar...politics/2442/

The arrest of the Michigan-based Hutaree Militia has drawn worldwide attention, and in so doing surfaced one of the knottiest issues we face as a culture to which religious freedom and free speech are so central: How do we think about and describe religiously-motivated violence?

In 2003, I reported on the trial of convicted serial anti-abortion terrorist Clayton Waagner for Salon.com. Even the fiercely pro-life Attorney General John Ashcroft described him as a terrorist. Waagner had FedExed envelopes of white powder purporting to be anthrax to some 550 reproductive rights groups and clinics. In a manifesto published on the Web site of the anti-abortion Army of God, he declared himself to be “God’s warrior” and a “terrorist,” and threatened to kill as many abortion providers as he could.

The National Liberation Front of Tripura (NLFT), a rebel group operating in Tripura, North-East India, has been described as engaging in terrorist violence motivated by their Christian beliefs. It is classified by the National Memorial Institute for the Prevention of Terrorism as one of the ten most active terrorist groups in the world, and has been accused of forcefully converting people to Christianity

The KKK: Beginning after the Civil War, members of the Protestant-led, Ku Klux Klan organization began engaging in arson, beatings, cross burning, destruction of property, lynching, murder, rape, tar-and-feathering, and whipping against African Americans, Jews, Catholics, and other social or ethnic minorities.They were explicitly Christian terrorist in ideology, basing their beliefs on a "religious foundation" in Christianity. The goals of the KKK included, from an early time on, an intent to, "reestablish Protestant Christian values in America by any means possible," and believe that "Jesus was the first Klansman."

During the twentieth century, members of extremist groups such as the Army of God began executing attacks against abortion clinics and doctors across the United States. A number of terrorist attacks were attributed to individuals and groups with ties to the Christian Identity and Christian Patriot movements, including the Lambs of Christ. A group called Concerned Christians were deported from Israel on suspicion of planning to attack holy sites in Jerusalem at the end of 1999, believing that their deaths would "lead them to heaven." The motive for anti-abortionist Scott Roeder murdering Wichita doctor George Tiller on May 31, 2009 was a belief that abortion is criminal and immoral, and that this belief went "hand in hand" with his religious beliefs.

Now most people say "Oh that's not Christianity" or "That's not representative of all Christians - those are fundamentalists." EXACTLY. Same thing goes for people like Hasan, Abdo, the 9/11 attacks, etc. Those are fundamentalists who do not represent the entire religion of Islam.

The first article I posted (I think) talks about how our brains are wired to stereotype "us" vs "them."

Psychologists say stereotypes come from a deeply human impulse to categorize other people, usually into groups of "us" and "them."

"Our brains are wired that way," said Cheryl Dickter, a psychology professor at the College of William & Mary who studies stereotypes and prejudice.

When Dickter examined brain waves, she found that people process information and pictures about their "us" group differently compared with information about "them" groups. People remembered information better when it reinforced their stereotypes of other groups, she said, and when information didn't fit their stereotype, it was often explained or simply forgotten.

"That's how stereotypes get maintained in the face of all this (contradictory) information," Dickter said.


I guarantee you that when the first reports of the Norway attack came out, nearly everyone automatically thought "Muslims did it."

Terrorists can be ANYONE - young, old, Muslim, Christian, male, female, whatever. That's why people need to stop stereotyping all terrorists = Muslims.
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Old 08-05-2011, 01:24 AM   #19
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Thank you for correcting me.
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Old 08-05-2011, 09:52 AM   #20
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I think there is a difference, though. The Norwegian and Timothy McVeigh, to use two of your examples, were abberations. It is incredibly rare for a Norwegian to commit mass murder and McVeigh-well, how many midwesterners go around bombing people in buildings? But Islamic fundamentalists? Happens all the time. So I do not apologize for my very critical views of them and I can't fault others for disliking a religion that spawns so many terrorists.
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