B.C, see that read writing under Diddly's name - that means he's an _expert_ in rocks, and things to do with rocks, like how much it costs to turn them into other things, and how much it costs to get them out of the ground... So philosophical arguments are not going to cut it in this debate. It doesn't matter what his attitude is, he knows the facts, so in order to continue the debate, you need to present more facts, not philosophical dalliances which just show that you haven't taken your hands out of your pajamas yet...