[phernikas]

So if a guy does this

stuff naturally and has successful relationships with women, that's OK. But if some guys need some assistance,

they're playing childish games!
I just want to say that I was/am one of the one's in need of

assistance and the whole fast seduction thing and pheromones have been helping me. I fit what people were talking

about exactly, I was raised with the "treat her right" and the "just be yourself" and the "nice guy thing". I can

say it hasn't worked for me and I'm 26 years old now. I haven't had the success with women that I've wanted and

my relationships end up being where the girl has the control and I don't get treated how I want to be treated. My

advice, especially to younger people, is to not be how I was with girls. It has gotten me nowhere with girls. The

RJ, David DeAngelo and mystery method stuff can be complicating and I'm not completely sold on trying to do all

those things, but just the points that phersurf make in this post about the way of thinking about girls can help.

I'm getting better at it and hopefully learning stuff from fast seduction and making it complement my personality

will get me where I want to be. For me, it is not about not being myself, it is trying to become better at just

being myself and improving myself.