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**BliliBoopsy** · 07-16-2012, 07:19 PM

Buddha,
With respect to your OP, here's what I think. The cat is not "half dead", it does not exist simultaneously in more than one state. From the observers viewpoint, the state of the cat is UNKNOWN (unobserved) until the box is opened. In my objective view of the universe, this means that the cat is EITHER dead OR alive in the box, not both, but the actual state will remain UNKNOWN until the box is opened and the observation is made (at which point the TRUE [conforming to reality] state of the cat is observed.)

No real "paradox" involved at all, unless you INSIST as an observer that you CAN know something about the actual state of the cat without making an actual observation... which is (in my opinion) the height of scientific folly.

P.S. I disagree with madfranks explanation above, in my world view there is only ONE universe, and just because the phenomenon hasn't been OBSERVED yet does NOT mean that it is not already in a specific state of observable existence.

In my world view, it is axiomatic that REALITY EXISTS and that IT IS WHAT IT IS, regardless of observation, subjective interpretation, or "feelings" about it. Science, in its PURE form, should be about observation, experimentation, and discovery... NOT the creation of grandiose nonsenses to try and explain something we don't yet understand (so-called "string theory" comes to mind!)

07-16-2012, 07:19 PM	#14
BliliBoopsy Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 429 Senior Member	Buddha, With respect to your OP, here's what I think. The cat is not "half dead", it does not exist simultaneously in more than one state. From the observers viewpoint, the state of the cat is UNKNOWN (unobserved) until the box is opened. In my objective view of the universe, this means that the cat is EITHER dead OR alive in the box, not both, but the actual state will remain UNKNOWN until the box is opened and the observation is made (at which point the TRUE [conforming to reality] state of the cat is observed.) No real "paradox" involved at all, unless you INSIST as an observer that you CAN know something about the actual state of the cat without making an actual observation... which is (in my opinion) the height of scientific folly. P.S. I disagree with madfranks explanation above, in my world view there is only ONE universe, and just because the phenomenon hasn't been OBSERVED yet does NOT mean that it is not already in a specific state of observable existence. In my world view, it is axiomatic that REALITY EXISTS and that IT IS WHAT IT IS, regardless of observation, subjective interpretation, or "feelings" about it. Science, in its PURE form, should be about observation, experimentation, and discovery... NOT the creation of grandiose nonsenses to try and explain something we don't yet understand (so-called "string theory" comes to mind!)
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