Damn you Cliff!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I will say it again! You are NOT the general public! You actually seem to have dog smarts and a brain. I trust you would not let your dogs fight over the course of a couple of years till one is dead. Most people out in the world are NOT SMART and not DOG smart! They won't afford a crate so they sure won't build a kennel. Chain spots or tethering is WAYYYYYY bad in their eyes(people seem to like zip lines tho, odd. But you STILL have to buy stuff and put it up and it will ruin the lawn). Most people would not give a dog their own room So what you ~can~ do with your dogs, the general public ~won't~ do.