Don't even get me started on them. It was pretty funny actually, because when my mother was looking to get another GSD, I told her to go for Schutzhund lines. She blew me off and came back a month later like, "yeah, my vet told me the exact same thing." Her GSD can be a wimp, due to my mom's babying, but she steps up when needed, like when she treed a bear. I just get frustrated because my mother honestly does not understand dog behavior and thinks my Border Collie is "mean and unsocilized" becuase he fought her dog over a frisbee. She doesn't get that stuff like that is part of a dog just being a dog.