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**klubneras** · 05-13-2010, 05:20 PM

I think the best answer is that an Amstaff and an APBT are NOT the same breed, they are complately different. So if you are looking for an Amstaff, also realize that the dogs are as individual as their breeders are! Each breeder strives to perfect the dog towards the breed standard (well they are supposed to) but each breeder also has personal preferences. Therefore a dog from one breeder will be different than the next. If I were looking to show conformation, I would definitely go with an AKC or UKC Amstaff. Good luck with your puppy.

Good post.

The dog you are looking at getting is an AST in reality yet an "APBT" in theory thanks to dual registration.

If I were to get an AST, I would do so from a breeder that breeds to the old, original standard, that works their dog in some venue (obedience, Rally-O, etc.), and healthtests hips, elbows, and cardiac.

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I checked the site. The dogs don't look bad; some look real nice. But I don't see any proof of their showing (no show pictures, etc.), they don't do anything else with the dogs, and there is no mention of health-testing. And I don't like that they say they breed for head type and all that. I want a breeder that doesn't breed solely for a specific head shape and whatnot. Remember, they may look great on the outside, but their skeletal system (hips, elbows, knees, etc.) can be a genetic mess.

05-13-2010, 05:20 PM	#2
klubneras Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 507 Senior Member	I think the best answer is that an Amstaff and an APBT are NOT the same breed, they are complately different. So if you are looking for an Amstaff, also realize that the dogs are as individual as their breeders are! Each breeder strives to perfect the dog towards the breed standard (well they are supposed to) but each breeder also has personal preferences. Therefore a dog from one breeder will be different than the next. If I were looking to show conformation, I would definitely go with an AKC or UKC Amstaff. Good luck with your puppy. Good post. The dog you are looking at getting is an AST in reality yet an "APBT" in theory thanks to dual registration. If I were to get an AST, I would do so from a breeder that breeds to the old, original standard, that works their dog in some venue (obedience, Rally-O, etc.), and healthtests hips, elbows, and cardiac. ---------- Post added at 10:20 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:16 AM ---------- I checked the site. The dogs don't look bad; some look real nice. But I don't see any proof of their showing (no show pictures, etc.), they don't do anything else with the dogs, and there is no mention of health-testing. And I don't like that they say they breed for head type and all that. I want a breeder that doesn't breed solely for a specific head shape and whatnot. Remember, they may look great on the outside, but their skeletal system (hips, elbows, knees, etc.) can be a genetic mess.
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