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**bp9QxekG** · 03-22-2009, 07:12 PM

Seems you're lucky to still be alive - verges, hedges, telephone poles, etc, can be very misleading as cambers affectt he apparent radius of the bends, hedges and telephone poles don't always follow the road and may short cut sections, etc.

I can assure you that you may know some dodges but not "all" and they won't warn you of gravel, manure, damp patches, decreasing radii, vehicles on your side of the road ( I hope you're not using the oncoming lane as well) etc.

However, I am with you regarding the open countryside with good visability which allows you safely attack the nice corners and undulating surfaces. Got a fair few down here as well - used to be a lot more of them as gravel surfaces as well [thumbup]

I wouldn't say I'm lucky to be alive, although the Amount of crazy Volvo drivers I've encountered in my 12 years of motorcycle riding probably numbers into the 1000's.

I've been driving cars since 1997 and had one accident in all that time and that was at 5mph, when I shunted some silly cow at a junction when she pulled out then braked suddenly in front of me.

As for the looking at hedges etc to see the way the road bends and turns, I got that "trick" from my Police motorcyclist friend, fences are also a good indicator too.

As for encountering manure patches, gravel and any number of unseen dangers, well no one can anticipate dangers they haven't encountered before, And I've never ended up on the other side of the road either, I did once come off my bike, down a newly gravelled road, but the council hadn't left any signs to indicate the road had a fresh coating of gravel and my 70+mph knee down turned into a sliding up the road on my ass, Thank god for full leathers, I walked away without a scratch.

Bike was not so lucky, But I avoided most dangers, and one of the biggest ones in wales is Tractors. [cursing]

I seriously do hate farmers and their bloody tractors, I reckon most lack an MOT and probably are not fit to be on the road either, driving without lights at night is favourite trick for farmers around here.

03-22-2009, 07:12 PM	#35
bp9QxekG Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 520 Senior Member	Seems you're lucky to still be alive - verges, hedges, telephone poles, etc, can be very misleading as cambers affectt he apparent radius of the bends, hedges and telephone poles don't always follow the road and may short cut sections, etc. I can assure you that you may know some dodges but not "all" and they won't warn you of gravel, manure, damp patches, decreasing radii, vehicles on your side of the road ( I hope you're not using the oncoming lane as well) etc. However, I am with you regarding the open countryside with good visability which allows you safely attack the nice corners and undulating surfaces. Got a fair few down here as well - used to be a lot more of them as gravel surfaces as well [thumbup] I wouldn't say I'm lucky to be alive, although the Amount of crazy Volvo drivers I've encountered in my 12 years of motorcycle riding probably numbers into the 1000's. I've been driving cars since 1997 and had one accident in all that time and that was at 5mph, when I shunted some silly cow at a junction when she pulled out then braked suddenly in front of me. As for the looking at hedges etc to see the way the road bends and turns, I got that "trick" from my Police motorcyclist friend, fences are also a good indicator too. As for encountering manure patches, gravel and any number of unseen dangers, well no one can anticipate dangers they haven't encountered before, And I've never ended up on the other side of the road either, I did once come off my bike, down a newly gravelled road, but the council hadn't left any signs to indicate the road had a fresh coating of gravel and my 70+mph knee down turned into a sliding up the road on my ass, Thank god for full leathers, I walked away without a scratch. Bike was not so lucky, But I avoided most dangers, and one of the biggest ones in wales is Tractors. [cursing] I seriously do hate farmers and their bloody tractors, I reckon most lack an MOT and probably are not fit to be on the road either, driving without lights at night is favourite trick for farmers around here.
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