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**objennasweene** · 01-13-2009, 08:04 PM

i agree time for a new car because right now its kinda on the verge of self destruction.

how about a 05 scion tC?

I was looking at one as well. There's a very nice (slightly riced) 05 Scion Tc for $12,000. Its 200 miles away in Kentucky, but it might be worth it. The upgrades I noticed were new headers, strut bar, air intake, and the exhaust didn't look stock either. Normally I'm hesitant of buying riced, but the way the car looked in the photos it wasn't just some hot rodding kid, whoever owned it appears to have actually cared for their car. Cars are fine being driven hard, as long as you know how to drive.

Unfortunately the tiburon I was considering turned out to be riced out and abused. Needs a bit of work. Even if they fixed it up I'd worry that whatever kid owned it before drove it as his first manual. Which means the clutch and the tranny probably took a lot of abuse.

Looked at the cobalts. Read some reviews. They seem to be good little cars, pretty reliable, but pretty much everyone says they handle like crap. Cute car, but I spend an hour a day in my car. I don't want something I don't like to drive. Unless I can get the upgraded model, which I've heard is quite a bit better to drive.

My options locally are really limited. I'm thinking I might just save my cash and put 50% down half a year from now and get what I want rather than settle for something I may or may not like, as my used options right now are pretty slim. The engine in my sunfire runs great. Zero oil leaks/burning. If I can wait out this 9 weeks I have $1300 in reimbursement coming from work, and I can use my excess student loans (about $1000) as well. So in 9 more weeks I'll have $4800 + whatever I saved from my paychecks. Even with my less than superb credit they wouldn't turn me down with a 50% down payment.

I'd like to get a tiburon, because I LOVE hatchbacks and I've heard great reviews on them. But right now I just can't find a decent used one. I did find ONE in columbus ohio. 4 cyl GS model, under 50k miles, $9k. The rest all have odd things on the carfax or look a bit abused, like the one locally at 40k miles has already had the tranny replaced. That could either be good, or bad, but I don't think I want to take the chance.

On the bright side I get to come to work at 5 AM in the morning! The wife works 1st shift, so I get up at 4:30 (instead of 7:45 like I'm used to). At least my boss was kind enough to let me work this wacky shift so that my wife and I can share a car while I worry about fixing mine.

One worry about fixing my sunfire is that if they're wrong, and it turns out to be worse than it is, it'll just be an even bigger headache. It still drives though. For now. Maybe I'll just see if they'll take it for some sort of trade-in value. Worst case scenario I call the local junk car buyer and get a few hundred for it.

And yeah, I won't get a BMW. I had one once. Cooling went out, and it ended up just being a nightmare. IMO unless you're a mechanic and hardcore into BMW's, or you're well off and can buy a new one with a warranty, its totally not worth it.

Also: often times we mark up your trade-in value to make it appear as equity going in but we also add that back onto your purchase price. I've been told that I shouldn't mention a trade-in until I've negotiated the price down a bit, and then tell them that I want to get rid of my current vehicle. I've heard from a few people that's the best way to get them to push the price down towards their minimum. Does that actually work? I'm hoping I can get a good deal with the auto industry being crap, and lots not pushing enough inventory out the door. Used cars aren't selling to well apparently, because the deals on new cars are so good.

01-13-2009, 08:04 PM	#15
objennasweene Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 465 Senior Member	i agree time for a new car because right now its kinda on the verge of self destruction. how about a 05 scion tC? I was looking at one as well. There's a very nice (slightly riced) 05 Scion Tc for $12,000. Its 200 miles away in Kentucky, but it might be worth it. The upgrades I noticed were new headers, strut bar, air intake, and the exhaust didn't look stock either. Normally I'm hesitant of buying riced, but the way the car looked in the photos it wasn't just some hot rodding kid, whoever owned it appears to have actually cared for their car. Cars are fine being driven hard, as long as you know how to drive. Unfortunately the tiburon I was considering turned out to be riced out and abused. Needs a bit of work. Even if they fixed it up I'd worry that whatever kid owned it before drove it as his first manual. Which means the clutch and the tranny probably took a lot of abuse. Looked at the cobalts. Read some reviews. They seem to be good little cars, pretty reliable, but pretty much everyone says they handle like crap. Cute car, but I spend an hour a day in my car. I don't want something I don't like to drive. Unless I can get the upgraded model, which I've heard is quite a bit better to drive. My options locally are really limited. I'm thinking I might just save my cash and put 50% down half a year from now and get what I want rather than settle for something I may or may not like, as my used options right now are pretty slim. The engine in my sunfire runs great. Zero oil leaks/burning. If I can wait out this 9 weeks I have $1300 in reimbursement coming from work, and I can use my excess student loans (about $1000) as well. So in 9 more weeks I'll have $4800 + whatever I saved from my paychecks. Even with my less than superb credit they wouldn't turn me down with a 50% down payment. I'd like to get a tiburon, because I LOVE hatchbacks and I've heard great reviews on them. But right now I just can't find a decent used one. I did find ONE in columbus ohio. 4 cyl GS model, under 50k miles, $9k. The rest all have odd things on the carfax or look a bit abused, like the one locally at 40k miles has already had the tranny replaced. That could either be good, or bad, but I don't think I want to take the chance. On the bright side I get to come to work at 5 AM in the morning! The wife works 1st shift, so I get up at 4:30 (instead of 7:45 like I'm used to). At least my boss was kind enough to let me work this wacky shift so that my wife and I can share a car while I worry about fixing mine. One worry about fixing my sunfire is that if they're wrong, and it turns out to be worse than it is, it'll just be an even bigger headache. It still drives though. For now. Maybe I'll just see if they'll take it for some sort of trade-in value. Worst case scenario I call the local junk car buyer and get a few hundred for it. And yeah, I won't get a BMW. I had one once. Cooling went out, and it ended up just being a nightmare. IMO unless you're a mechanic and hardcore into BMW's, or you're well off and can buy a new one with a warranty, its totally not worth it. Also: often times we mark up your trade-in value to make it appear as equity going in but we also add that back onto your purchase price. I've been told that I shouldn't mention a trade-in until I've negotiated the price down a bit, and then tell them that I want to get rid of my current vehicle. I've heard from a few people that's the best way to get them to push the price down towards their minimum. Does that actually work? I'm hoping I can get a good deal with the auto industry being crap, and lots not pushing enough inventory out the door. Used cars aren't selling to well apparently, because the deals on new cars are so good.
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