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**casinobonusese** · 10-03-2010, 01:01 AM

Salaam 'alaykum wr wb.
I think that I should clarify some points here about my own thinking and the susceptibilities of this Muslim Nation at present which takes its examples, even subliminally from the West choosing for itself as heroes men who seem to match a Western model the most.
The most dangerous thing for our Umma which is religiously in a precarious position right now is to accept someone as good enough for da'wa, then take him on further for Islamic education, finally turning him into some sort of Guru whose opinions in anything and everything are to be followed. This is happening with a small group of under educated but extra smart Muslims in Mumbai who have turning him into an Imaam and quote him as an authority in everything. How far have the Muslims come in orphaning the Deen of their Prophet(saaws)? They abandon thousands, no millions of qualified 'ulama from hundreds of seminaries and choose to run behind someone who cannot recite a single Qur'anic verse or a single hadeeth properly. I am not talking of his lisp but his lack of knowledge of tajweed and Arabic.
The idea of benefit has to be understood properly. If one means sitting in front of a TV/Computer screen, listening to an argument in which cunning and misrepresentation is used in order to make a person of another religion uncomfortable and then patting oneself on the back for belonging to the victorious faith, then there might be some dubious benefit in this. I think that I can concede this kind of benefit from the speakers that you mentioned.
The greatest weapon in dawa is the Qur'aan and the Sunna, not standing in front of an audience and reciting verses and ahadith by rote but living, breathing and sleeping them. He whose weapons are different from these can only remain a Pop Da'ee, not a real one. (to be continued)

10-03-2010, 01:01 AM	#38
casinobonusese Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 435 Senior Member	Salaam 'alaykum wr wb. I think that I should clarify some points here about my own thinking and the susceptibilities of this Muslim Nation at present which takes its examples, even subliminally from the West choosing for itself as heroes men who seem to match a Western model the most. The most dangerous thing for our Umma which is religiously in a precarious position right now is to accept someone as good enough for da'wa, then take him on further for Islamic education, finally turning him into some sort of Guru whose opinions in anything and everything are to be followed. This is happening with a small group of under educated but extra smart Muslims in Mumbai who have turning him into an Imaam and quote him as an authority in everything. How far have the Muslims come in orphaning the Deen of their Prophet(saaws)? They abandon thousands, no millions of qualified 'ulama from hundreds of seminaries and choose to run behind someone who cannot recite a single Qur'anic verse or a single hadeeth properly. I am not talking of his lisp but his lack of knowledge of tajweed and Arabic. The idea of benefit has to be understood properly. If one means sitting in front of a TV/Computer screen, listening to an argument in which cunning and misrepresentation is used in order to make a person of another religion uncomfortable and then patting oneself on the back for belonging to the victorious faith, then there might be some dubious benefit in this. I think that I can concede this kind of benefit from the speakers that you mentioned. The greatest weapon in dawa is the Qur'aan and the Sunna, not standing in front of an audience and reciting verses and ahadith by rote but living, breathing and sleeping them. He whose weapons are different from these can only remain a Pop Da'ee, not a real one. (to be continued)
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