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**12ZHeWZa** · 02-04-2012, 10:17 PM

Secondly, God is not in time. Therefore, past, present and future does not apply to God.

I have a query with regards to this statement.

The Prophet

said: "Whoever argues in support of something that is wrong and he knows it Allah will be angry with him until he stops." (sahih)
So Allah is Angry in a way that is not like a human's anger until such a point as a person stops doing something, and then He is not Angry with that person.

Similar is the Qur'anic ayah:

وَمَا قَدَرُواْ اللَّهَ حَقَّ قَدْرِهِ وَالاٌّرْضُ جَمِيعـاً قَبْضَـتُهُ يَوْمَ الْقِيَـمَةِ وَالسَّمَـوَتُ مَطْوِيَّـتٌ بِيَمِينِهِ سُبْحَـنَهُ وَتَعَالَى عَمَّا يُشْرِكُونَ So has this already happened? Or what? Because the ayah indicates something that has not been done yet and it will be done...

Or this hadith, which states:

Laqeet bin Saburah narrates that the Messenger of Allah said: "Our Lord laughs over the despair of His slaves, when relief is so close."

So he (Laqeet) said: "O Messenger of Allah! And does the Lord laugh?"

He replied: "Na'am. (Yes.)"

Laqeet said: "We will never give up hope in receiving good from a Lord who laughs!" ^so this is a 'when' established in a hadith concerning an action of Allah, Most High, and it indicates that this occurs at a point...

Frankly, I am very confused with regards to this issue, perhaps you can enlighten me with a saying of the Sahabah in regards to this or something,

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02-04-2012, 10:17 PM	#9
12ZHeWZa Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 431 Senior Member	Secondly, God is not in time. Therefore, past, present and future does not apply to God. I have a query with regards to this statement. The Prophet said: "Whoever argues in support of something that is wrong and he knows it Allah will be angry with him until he stops." (sahih) So Allah is Angry in a way that is not like a human's anger until such a point as a person stops doing something, and then He is not Angry with that person. Similar is the Qur'anic ayah: وَمَا قَدَرُواْ اللَّهَ حَقَّ قَدْرِهِ وَالاٌّرْضُ جَمِيعـاً قَبْضَـتُهُ يَوْمَ الْقِيَـمَةِ وَالسَّمَـوَتُ مَطْوِيَّـتٌ بِيَمِينِهِ سُبْحَـنَهُ وَتَعَالَى عَمَّا يُشْرِكُونَ So has this already happened? Or what? Because the ayah indicates something that has not been done yet and it will be done... Or this hadith, which states: Laqeet bin Saburah narrates that the Messenger of Allah said: "Our Lord laughs over the despair of His slaves, when relief is so close." So he (Laqeet) said: "O Messenger of Allah! And does the Lord laugh?" He replied: "Na'am. (Yes.)" Laqeet said: "We will never give up hope in receiving good from a Lord who laughs!" ^so this is a 'when' established in a hadith concerning an action of Allah, Most High, and it indicates that this occurs at a point... Frankly, I am very confused with regards to this issue, perhaps you can enlighten me with a saying of the Sahabah in regards to this or something, .
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