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**vipBrooriErok** · 11-13-2010, 10:45 AM

One way is that of salaf (which is) to take this (sifaat) on its literal meaning, and to relegate the true nature of meaning to the knowledge of Ilahi (Allah), and do not decide any modality of it, and the second way is that of khalaf (which is) to do apropriate ta'weel in it (issues of sifaat), so that the misguided sects (like) mushabbiha and mujassemah do not give them wrong meaning.

(Imdadul fatawa, Vol-6, page 28)

jazak Allah.. you are very close.. Whats the difference between "true nature" Vs "any modality"? If tafweedh is being made of both of these then what is there left of the "literal meaning"?

Although when you read the pdf you will understand that the term haqeeqi ma'na is not translated in it truest nature. but that is a slightly longer discussion which Ml. Thanvi r.a himself makes in the risalah..

He also discusses the explanation of "true nature" in the risalah, but you can atleast try to excercise a little bit of your brain before reading the whole risalah.

@Orthodox,

We all know from our previous confrontations with Tawheed that he is a Salafi.

11-13-2010, 10:45 AM	#18
vipBrooriErok Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 381 Senior Member	One way is that of salaf (which is) to take this (sifaat) on its literal meaning, and to relegate the true nature of meaning to the knowledge of Ilahi (Allah), and do not decide any modality of it, and the second way is that of khalaf (which is) to do apropriate ta'weel in it (issues of sifaat), so that the misguided sects (like) mushabbiha and mujassemah do not give them wrong meaning. (Imdadul fatawa, Vol-6, page 28) jazak Allah.. you are very close.. Whats the difference between "true nature" Vs "any modality"? If tafweedh is being made of both of these then what is there left of the "literal meaning"? Although when you read the pdf you will understand that the term haqeeqi ma'na is not translated in it truest nature. but that is a slightly longer discussion which Ml. Thanvi r.a himself makes in the risalah.. He also discusses the explanation of "true nature" in the risalah, but you can atleast try to excercise a little bit of your brain before reading the whole risalah. @Orthodox, We all know from our previous confrontations with Tawheed that he is a Salafi.
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